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Old 09-16-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Investors.com - 45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul


So much for the phony rhetoric that doctors are on his side. Geez, how many more lies is the man going to be caught telling?
This poll is crap. No way is it accurate, but accuracy does not matter to a wingnut
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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Investors.com - 45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul





So much for the phony rhetoric that doctors are on his side. Geez, how many more lies is the man going to be caught telling?
Sorry, quite the contrary...
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Funny,

63% of Doctors favor Public Option.

An additional 10% favor Single Payer- New England Journal Of Medicine poll- not some for profit malarkey.

'Zactly.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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They've poured hundreds of millions into FreedomWorks lies.
Single Payer
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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One of my doctors said he would support a public option if the government would make him an employee and pay all of his overhead costs. The way it stands now the government expects the doctors to continue to be able to provide services, pay overhead, and still make a profit for less reimbursment. What a farce!
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why would 45% of doctor's give up their livelihood? It is not a government takeover. It is a change to the health insurance industry that would add a public insurance option.

Simple. Doctors did not go to medical school to have a government panel tell them how to cost effectively treat their patients. They went to medical school to help patients.
Right now they have the insurance companies doing that. I spent about an hour today on a stupid "prior auth" for a drug the dr. prescribed that the ins. company did not want to pay for.

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Old 09-16-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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Simple. Doctors did not go to medical school to have a government panel tell them how to cost effectively treat their patients. They went to medical school to help patients.
Right now they have the insurance companies doing that. I spent about an hour today on a stupid "prior auth" for a drug the dr. prescribed that the ins. company did not want to pay for.[/quote]

You are comparing apples to oranges with that analogy. A government health board will set strict parameters as to what will or will not be covered based on a patient's age and comorbidities. Private insurance companies have guidelines but it is possible to get an exception from the insurance company medical director with appropriate documentation. The government plan, in order to be cost effective, will have to adhere to the guidelines as they do in other socialized medicine countries.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I'm an Independent, and so's the wife. Neither of us are for Obamacare. My wife is a Dentist with her own practice. What I'd like to see would be more along the lines of this:

Remove the income requirements for Medicare, and make that the Universal Health Care plan. In other words, expand medicare to be *open* to everyone. If people want private insurance, they can still have it. Give medicare a new name to reflect the new program. It should be called US Health Care.

My wife already donates free dental care to those that can't afford it. If a kid comes from a poor family and needs work done that isn't covered by state insurance, my wife does it anyway and just eats the cost. She feels that taking care of her patients means more than money. I agree with her.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You are comparing apples to oranges with that analogy. A government health board will set strict parameters as to what will or will not be covered based on a patient's age and comorbidities. Private insurance companies have guidelines but it is possible to get an exception from the insurance company medical director with appropriate documentation. The government plan, in order to be cost effective, will have to adhere to the guidelines as they do in other socialized medicine countries.
You know this how? Please provide some links that are not opinon pieces.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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You know this how? Please provide some links that are not opinon pieces.
I know this because I know how to do math and I have common sense. Obama promises that a public option will save money. The only way to save money is to deny care. Refute that.
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