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Old 09-23-2009, 01:37 AM
 
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If you loo at the history of progams paid for by savings ;none have ever come true;they always cost more and the savings never some true either.
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:59 AM
 
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We'll need a tax hike to cover the "W" wars. then the money that was spent on the wars that should have been spent on health care can be spent on health care.
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:11 AM
 
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Careful, or you'll offend the Invade-Iraq-and-be-home-by-Christmas crowd. Pretty much the same bunch of whizbangs and Bush-bozos as is now lined up in opposition to health care reform. Great track record they have...wrong about everything for years, but still expect to be taken seriously...
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:16 AM
 
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If you loo at the history of progams paid for by savings ;none have ever come true;they always cost more and the savings never some true either.
Well, thanks for doing all that research. And for the detailed report of your findings. Very impressive...
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Well, thanks for doing all that research. And for the detailed report of your findings. Very impressive...
It's not that hard, saggy. Name just ONE government program that cost what they said it would cost, that saves what they said it would save and that runs in the black?

Can't do it, can you?

Yet you're 100% behind obama and his boondoggle.
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:26 AM
 
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Well, thanks for doing all that research. And for the detailed report of your findings. Very impressive...

The cost of Medicare is a good place to begin. At its start, in 1966, Medicare cost $3 billion. The House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $ 12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was a supposedly "conservative" estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion.

This is a mere bagatelle compared with "conservative" projections for the next generation. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that Medicare will cost $223 billion by 1997. Constance Homer, deputy secretary of Health and Human Services, warns that "by the year 2003, at the current rates, we will be spending more on Medicare than we do on Social Security." (reason.com)
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:27 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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Careful, or you'll offend the Invade-Iraq-and-be-home-by-Christmas crowd. Pretty much the same bunch of whizbangs and Bush-bozos as is now lined up in opposition to health care reform. Great track record they have...wrong about everything for years, but still expect to be taken seriously...
Indeed.

You Lie!
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:29 AM
 
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Well, I suppose inflation and higher insurance premiums technically aren't "taxes" for me.
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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Right..should have started that with "Once upon a time....".

I'll believe it when I see it. No way can you subsidize insurance and not have to pay anything back.
He didnt say that we wouldnt have to pay anything back, he said "the middle class" wouldnt have to pay anything back. All you 250 thousand plus people anti up
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Mastic Beach
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If you loo at the history of progams paid for by savings ;none have ever come true;they always cost more and the savings never some true either.
Well since we are the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD that doesnt have healthcare for every single citizen, I would say that we are certainly not the "experts"
I would even say the only thing that run's our medical system now is selfishness and greed. Greedy doctors, Greedy pharmacists, Greedy insurance companies...
We went wrong when we put a price tag on peoples health.
When did dollars become more important that human life?
They should have congress and senate tv,
I bet they would be more careful with they're decisions if we were all watching them
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