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How about this. If our government spends nearly a trillion dollars someone has to fork it over. So the government will have to tax people to pay for the program. Those people paying are not sending in donations so there will have to be taxes collected. As usual, it will be directly targeted at "evil" people. Those "evil" people will shift the burden of the cost back onto the people who "benefit". When those who "benefit" are indirectly taxed until they can no longer afford something else that they want, the process will repeat itself as it always does with collectivist policies.
No seriously, "No tax of any kind on Americans for Health Insurance Plan".
Just that annual fee for those who dont want to pay for ins.
Fee, you mean fees which meet the legal definition of a "tax"? And those other individuals who do get added to the insurance plan because they dont want to pay this tax, I mean "fee", will have their care paid for how? Oooh, cuts in other services, and other fees, which of course is A TAX..
Only delusional individuals dont understand that fees are taxes.
Fee, you mean fees which meet the legal definition of a "tax"? And those other individuals who do get added to the insurance plan because they dont want to pay this tax, I mean "fee", will have their care paid for how? Oooh, cuts in other services, and other fees, which of course is A TAX..
Only delusional individuals dont understand that fees are taxes.
"And those other individuals who do get added to the insurance plan because they dont want to pay this tax, I mean "fee", will have their care paid for how?"
People who choose the public option, who dont buy thru/arent assisted by their employer? I think -- if their income is 400% of the poverty line they're subsidized to some percent, but not 100%.
You're so skeered of this public option. Keep in mind the trigger idea is being discussed, too -- that if the ins cos dont bring their prices down to an accessible level after X years, then a public option would kick in.
"And those other individuals who do get added to the insurance plan because they dont want to pay this tax, I mean "fee", will have their care paid for how?"
People who choose the public option, who dont buy thru/arent assisted by their employer? I think -- if their income is 400% of the poverty line they're subsidized to some percent, but not 100%.
You're so skeered of this public option. Keep in mind the trigger idea is being discussed, too -- that if the ins cos dont bring their prices down to an accessible level after X years, then a public option would kick in.
Subsidized how? Whos paying for it and how?
And I dont give a rats butt about a threat of a public option if they dont bring their prices down because the ONLY way insurance companies can bring down prices is to cut services.. PERIOD.. Since of course the government refuses to allow them to compete..
And I dont give a rats butt about a threat of a public option if they dont bring their prices down because the ONLY way insurance companies can bring down prices is to cut services.. PERIOD.. Since of course the government refuses to allow them to compete..
? They'll be competing with each other. each ins source must offer certain minimum required benefits to be accepted onto the Health Ins Exchange. From there, they compete for business. The insurance companies overcharge us and Medicare/Medicaid by billions. Subsidized how, by the premiums it collects.
? They'll be competing with each other. each ins source must offer certain minimum required benefits to be accepted onto the Health Ins Exchange. From there, they compete for business. The insurance companies overcharge us and Medicare/Medicaid by billions. Subsidized how, by the premiums it collects.
They OVERCHARGE? Really? You are being ripped off by the insurance companies? I will now support a criminal investigation into why people are being "overcharged"..
Oooh, they arent overcharging, they are billing people what they are WILLING TO PAY..
Let's see.................. tax revenues go into one government "bucket" which can be divided up however they see fit. I seem to recall some guy talking about raising income taxes on everyone earning more than $250K. Gee, I wonder what those "revenues" are going to be used for?
They OVERCHARGE? Really? You are being ripped off by the insurance companies? I will now support a criminal investigation into why people are being "overcharged"..
Oooh, they arent overcharging, they are billing people what they are WILLING TO PAY..
Done arguing with delusional individuals..
And they're billing so much that even employers, let alone individual families, cant afford it anymore. People ARENT willing to pay, they've been HAVING to pay -- or drop coverage.
"Victims" will always be "victims". No use trying to point out how ironic it is that their government "solutions" actually create REAL victims.
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