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Old 11-12-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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You are quite right I have a right to quit. What will happwn is a small percentage will do just that. But the bigger problem is the future, the best and brightest will not be inclined to go into medicine they will take their talents eleswhere and the quality of our healthcare will decline.

Here is an imperfect analogy. Do you know the Canadian fim industry higjly regulates what actors can be paid? No suppose The US regulated actors pay and Canda didn't. What do you suppose would happen to the US film industry?

Please tell me why you believe food is a "right"? It simply isn't.

No one has a right to police officers as a society we have determined that certain funtions are best handled by the government. They are very few and law enforcement is one of those.


People pay market rate for food. The government does not dictate reimbursement as they do in healthcare.
read the whole post I did not make the analogy to food.

ummm well over 50% of citizens support the idea of single payer so we as a society find it to be important
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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You fail to mention (fortunately I know more than a few people in the same field as your wife) that medicare doesn't always pay the full amount they owe. They pay a set amount regardless of the cost, which means the hospital/provider is stiffed on the bill in many cases.

just like insurance does dont try to twist it. I had a 6,000 hospital bill that insurance 2300 on and thats that but the uninsured would owe 6,000
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: TX
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oh and they weren't being made? nothing worse than a racist who can't even admit it.
You're absolutely right - assumptions were being made - I just find it interesting and amusing that there was nothing in the wording/syntax/context of the post that was overtly racist.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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I see... it's really about your wife getting paid in a timely manner.

i am done replying to you. you are ignorant and have no valid point in your statements. I'm gonna make my keyboard last longer by ignoring your utter ignorance.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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I agree health care is a right. I also think being responsible and contributing your fair share to society is a right. People assume a Right = Free. People have that confused and assume that health care should be a right and thus they shouldn't have to pay for it or prioritize it. It's amazing because people will not complain about paying $200 for an I-phone or a $30,000 for a new car but those same people don't want to pay for health insurance. I've seen Medicaid patients drive BMW's and have Coach purses. It's funny because you couldn't find a single Nintendo Wii a year ago because everyone felt they had to buy it even if they couldn't afford it but when it comes to healthcare, it's down on the priority list.

The funny thing is people in this country find a way to buy things when they want them but when it comes to health insurance, it's suddenly "Well I'm owed that so I shouldn't pay for it" I'm not defending insurance companies because they are ripping off people by continuing to increase premiums and profits and I believe in reform but I also think Americans need to prioritize their spending habits and not buy homes that are 10 times their annual salary or a buy a luxury car instead of buying health insurance.
no one said free
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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just like insurance does dont try to twist it. I had a 6,000 hospital bill that insurance 2300 on and thats that but the uninsured would owe 6,000
And that's why hospitals have payment plans. I was uninsured for the birth of my 2nd and 3rd children. Both hospitals knew that. They worked out a payment plan I could afford. It took a while but it got paid. As long as I paid something each month they were happy.

You seem to be having a hard time grasping this concept. No one owes you anything. It's not the governments job to take care of you.

That is your responsibility.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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oh and they weren't being made? nothing worse than a racist who can't even admit it.
...Except someone who sees racism behind every tree.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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I'm not taking anything out of context. You could have answered that question in a number of different ways but you chose that way

you are right i am envious of rich people thats why i support Health care
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:24 PM
 
Location: TX
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just like insurance does dont try to twist it. I had a 6,000 hospital bill that insurance 2300 on and thats that but the uninsured would owe 6,000
This is not accurate. Many hospitals, at least in my area, will negotiate with cash paying patients resulting in drastically reduced final bills.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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i am done replying to you. you are ignorant and have no valid point in your statements. I'm gonna make my keyboard last longer by ignoring your utter ignorance.
Now you know the reason one quits beating one's head against a brick wall. It feels good, doesn't it?
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