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Old 12-22-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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But socialized medicine, like the present healthcare bill in Congress, is another monopoly that is even worst than what we already have. Just look at Medicare/Medicaid: the government is not paying the bill fully, so now a lot of doctors and clinics aren't providing healthcare to such patients.
I lol'd.

I don't think that term means what you think it means.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Competition won't fix anything. The only way to get health insurance costs down is to provide universal coverage. Insurance is by design subject to economies of scale. A single payer plan is the only viable option.
bull competion has alway brought costs down.economies of scale means nothing to me what the heck does that mean? i own my business 30 yrs. i know that competion keeps my prices low and in line. it works.period
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No change to caps and pre-existing condition clauses?
Could all be included in an ala'carte-style policy, based on what you want to pay for
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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bull competion has alway brought costs down.economies of scale means nothing to me what the heck does that mean? i own my business 30 yrs. i know that competion keeps my prices low and in line. it works.period
see antitrust exemption
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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buying across state lines isn't going to mean diddly squat as long as the healthcare monopoly is still in place.
This is how I see it as well. I don't think that buying across state lines would make any significant difference at all. Why would it?
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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I would start by rewarding doctors who refuse to work with any insurance companies a high level of legal protection. If they are willing to see only self-pay patients who agree to hold the doctors harmless for problems the cost of the procedures would decrease greatly.
In other words, a system in which only those wealthy enough to pay out of pocket can see a doctor. And if that doctor just happens to remove a kidney instead of an appendix, well, you'll all have a nice hearty laugh about it.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:28 PM
 
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This is how I see it as well. I don't think that buying across state lines would make any significant difference at all. Why would it?
neither will tort reform
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Could all be included in an ala'carte-style policy, based on what you want to pay for
Hmmm..Boehner and other Republicans in Congress agreed they should be removed entirely...... Well, those things are in the bill in bi-partisan fashion, and for me those are the two big ones. I don't want to lose my house and 401K if I or my wife get sick. And the 3rd big one is the country wide insurance-trade pool. So, all the big issues are covered on the bill and are bi-partisan.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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But socialized medicine, like the present healthcare bill in Congress, is another monopoly that is even worst than what we already have. Just look at Medicare/Medicaid: the government is not paying the bill fully, so now a lot of doctors and clinics aren't providing healthcare to such patients.
The bill that will be signed is a far cry from socialized medicine. Medicare is a closer example of socialized medicine. To be sure there are many things that need to be corrected in Medicare, but when you see that the overhead administrative cost of Medicare is less than 2% and then see that private Ins overhead cost is 30% or greater, I think there is some obvious benefit to the Medicare platform. Down the road, this country will realize that it is in the best interest of all of us to remove the profit incentive from the care side of our health problems. The profit incentive should be in the innovation and prevention side of the issue. The care side should be a cost plus a reasonable and controlled profit system, similar to public utilities.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Give tax breaks to the Ins. Cos. of course. Duh!
Did you not see the upward spike in insurance company stocks on Monday, just after Reid got his 60 votes? The people that are about to make the insurance companies richer are the democrats.

So stop this game that republicans are doing it, when its plain to see, just ask Howard Dean.
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