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Old 01-23-2010, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Statement from President Obama:

"With its ruling today, the Supreme Court has given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics. It is a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans. This ruling gives the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington--while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates."

Think Progress » GOP Is Overjoyed At The Unprecedented Influence Corporations Will Now Have In Federal Campaigns
I like this quote you posted:

0bama: "With its ruling today, the Supreme Court has given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics.

This quote comes from a man who decided to forgo public campaign financing. Candidate 0bama opted out of the public campaign system once he figured out that he could raise more bundled campaign cash then McCain, and then obama went on to raise more money then any presidential candidate in history.

Unless I have been reading the wrong news articles, this ruling only allows for campaign advertisements not campaign contributions.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Public Agrees With Court: Campaign Money Is "Free Speech"

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Fifty-seven percent of Americans consider campaign donations to be a protected form of free speech, and 55% say corporate and union donations should be treated the same way under the law as donations from individuals are.
Seems a majority agree that donations are a form of free speech.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, I said anyone with half a brain can see the problems. If you don't see them, then you have LESS than half. I am independent, and as you can see most conservatives don't like this ruling either.
What we need is a well written law, or an amendment to the US Constitution, that does not infringe on freedom of speech.

What we had was an unconstitutional law where politicians were deciding which groups or associations of Americans should be allowed freedom of political speech and which ones could not.

Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm Stewart told the court that the government could ban a book if it endorsed one of the candidates.

Roberts: "It's a 500-page book, and at the end it says, 'And so vote for X,' the government could ban that?"

The law was a bad law, and deserved to be struck down, we need good laws not just any law.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Anyone opposed to this ruling of the Supreme Court can sign an online petition here.

Save Democracy



PETITION TEXT

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I support the "Save Our Democracy" Platform:

We cannot have a government that is bought and paid for by huge multinational corporations. We need a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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We cannot have a government that is bought and paid for by huge multinational corporations. We need a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

I just have to ask; When did you finally notice?

Do you dismiss the amount of evil corporate money that flooded into the campaign last year?
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I just have to ask; When did you finally notice?

Do you dismiss the amount of evil corporate money that flooded into the campaign last year?
I agree it is evil.

Everyone find the online petition to speak out against this ruling of the Supreme Court on post #284.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Anyone opposed to this ruling of the Supreme Court can sign an online petition here.

Save Democracy

PETITION TEXT

I support the "Save Our Democracy" Platform:

We cannot have a government that is bought and paid for by huge multinational corporations. We need a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Useless endeavor, if you think you can petition the courts to reverse a decision.

If the law was a bad law, and violated Constitutional rights, it needs to be struck down, regardless of the consequences that may result. The court can only look to whether the law is constitutional or not, that is all there is too it.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I just have to ask; When did you finally notice?

Do you dismiss the amount of evil corporate money that flooded into the campaign last year?
Until it hits the MSM and appears on their favorite URL then it's nothing but tin foil and conspiracy.

NOW it's a problem. Obama is fighting against the very thing he practiced ?
He wants lobbyists out...does he plan to fire his advisors ? What about that Monsanto guy in the FDA..does he go ?

He talks the talk but that's where it ends folks. His actions do not reflect his words.

This decision is not as major as some may think because it's been going on for years under the radar, in back rooms, by third party associations.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Useless endeavor, if you think you can petition the courts to reverse a decision.

If the law was a bad law, and violated Constitutional rights, it needs to be struck down, regardless of the consequences that may result. The court can only look to whether the law is constitutional or not, that is all there is too it.
It is called free speech! Practice your right. Online petition at post #284.
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I agree it is evil.

Everyone find the online petition to speak out against this ruling of the Supreme Court on post #284.
Where was this petition and advocacy for corporate money in politics 2008?
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