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OK, not all conservatives. The ones who think for themselves see it for what it is, while the "conservatives", who call themselves conservatives only because they happen to hate Dems seem to celebrate the ruling as some kind of victory.
I do not understand why this is a set back for democrats. Democrats have big Union money trial lawyer money and their share of big companies. Why would a democrat be against free speech and the constitution?
What conservatives don't understand is that this is a major blow to electoral process. There are plenty of conservatives here that complain about our electoral process or why better candidates don't run. This is why! You have corporations essentially dictating policy and now they are more empowered than ever before. This is a huge blow to Democracy. You wonder why politicians support special interests and now you have your answer. Congratulations, the conservative majority of the Supreme Court just strengthened that idea. Free speech my a#@#@
I guess you haven't noticed the money that is ALREADY dictating policy? I guess you didn't notice the over $1 BILLION contributed in the 2008 election?
Do you think the evil corporations didn't find their way around McCain-Feingold?
I do not understand why this is a set back for democrats. Democrats have big Union money trial lawyer money and their share of big companies. Why would a democrat be against free speech and the constitution?
You are not following the conversation.
It is not a set back for Dems, it is a set back for Independents. The ruling guarantees Dems and Reps hundreds of millions of campaign dollars and effectively makes it impossible for Independents to compete.
It is not a set back for Dems, it is a set back for Independents. The ruling guarantees Dems and Reps hundreds of millions of campaign dollars and effectively makes it impossible for Independents to compete.
It's a setback for libertarians, green party, liberty party, and whole host of 3rd parties already hobbled by the 2 party system monopoly.
It's ALSO a setback for dems and repubs, now even MORE beholden to special interest. McCain is against this decision as much as Obama. There's a reason.
It is not a set back for Dems, it is a set back for Independents. The ruling guarantees Dems and Reps hundreds of millions of campaign dollars and effectively makes it impossible for Independents to compete.
I disagree. I corporation can now buy ads for anyone. This is win for free speech
So let's say, for instance, that a Senator in a competitive state is a potential swing vote on a measure to place new regulations on the financial industry.
A couple representatives from the investment banks approach him, and make it clear that if he votes the "wrong" way, he will have to deal with a massive negative ad blitz. But if he votes the "right" way... well, they could help him out, and dump some of that venom on his challenger.
So let's say, for instance, that a Senator in a competitive state is a potential swing vote on a measure to place new regulations on the financial industry.
A couple representatives from the investment banks approach him, and make it clear that if he votes the "wrong" way, he will have to deal with a massive negative ad blitz. But if he votes the "right" way... well, they could help him out, and dump some of that venom on his challenger.
This is your vision of "free speech?"
If he can be bought then thats his problem > they bought Ben Nelson and he is being crucified.
In your scenario there will be the big corp on the other side that can buy the time to support him. Big corporations will have to answer to their board when it comes time to account for advertising budgets.
the 527 already can do this now so this is a win for free speech.
In your scenario there will be the big corp on the other side that can buy the time to support him.
Such as...?
Really, just look at the state of finance industry reform right now. Sure, there are a handful of small-money interest groups, but they have nothing compared to the kind of cash that Goldman Sachs can casually toss around as an afterthought.
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If he can be bought then thats his problem
Well, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but MOST politicians can be "bought" in the sense I described. Most politicians are terrified of bad press and seek to preserve their jobs. To a large extent, that's just pure human nature.
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