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Old 04-20-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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A few months back some poster became enraged when he read an article that stated cow feces was present in commercially ground beef and suggested not eating it. The poster was upset that someone was telling him not to eat burgers. Only an idiot rallies against their own best interests and nowhere is it more obvious than on CD.

As soon as they hear that the government is regulating something, they freak out. They have no clue that without much of this governement regulation, we would be poisoned in short order if left up to corporate America.

That's just gross. Imagine what would be going into our food if there were no regulations? All these E. Coli incidents would have killed a lot more people, yet these people think the government want to kill us. It wouldn't be hard. Some people are so anti-government that they can't see the forrest for the trees but I'm sure that will change once they get one of their precious conservatives back in office.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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Its the legacy of Ayn Rand and Friedman at work.

Despite the fact that the myth of the divine free market was shattered ala the Great Crash, too many have yet to awaken from the wet dream Reagan duped us into.

There are too many TBTF oligopolies and they have to be cut down to size.

We also need campaign finance reform to make sure officials serve the public interest.

But given the public's admiration of the Becks, Palins and Hiltons of the world it is not surprising the mess we are in right now.
Agreed! I suppose that the brainwashing stuck to the ones that corporate America counted on it sticking to. Rule of thumb is never buy so called "food' that is advertised on TV. The same people that buy into the commercially prepared junk also give the pharmaceutical industry their huge bottom lines. They rush off to the market to purchase salt, sugar and additive laden processed junk food and them the pharmacy to buy the latest drugs pushed on TV commercials.

Yes, I just posted the need for campaign finance reform on another thread. Another no brainer.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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As soon as they hear that the government is regulating something, they freak out. They have no clue that without much of this government regulation, we would be poisoned in short order if left up to corporate America.
Don't always think government regulation is in your own best interests. At what point does the FDA stop being the regulatory armpit of America?
First it's salt, then it's regulating medicinal herbs and vitamins. The e cigarette trade is on the Horizon.
Where do you want it to end. If ever?

Don't kid yourself. The FDA is in Corporate
America's back pocket.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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Don't always think government regulation is in your own best interests. At what point does the FDA stop being the regulatory armpit of America?
First it's salt, then it's regulating medicinal herbs and vitamins. The e cigarette trade is on the Horizon.
Where do you want it to end. If ever?

Don't kid yourself. The FDA is in Corporate
America's back pocket.
Does everything have to be an either/or with you?

Just because people agree with the FDA on this issue does not mean they agree with them on every issue.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:10 PM
 
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This is actually very welcome news. The free market has had its chance and all it has done is pour as much sodium into everything it possibly can.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:14 PM
 
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So you two like the idea of high levels of salt in your food?
No. We like the ability to be able to make the choice for ourselves whether or not that particular product has too much salt.

You know. Choice.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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The option to consume all the salt a person could ever want is still available. You're just going to have to take the initiative and add the salt yourself. The choice to have as much or as little salt as wanted can be up to the consumer! Personal freedom triumphs!
Sorry, this is just a stupid thing to say.

You know how many baked products have salt in them? I just made some dough from scratch that had salt in it. I suppose not putting that in, and then putting the salt on top of the bread after its baked is the same thing.

Or, a grander idea. You can not limit the amount of salt in pre-made dough, and allow people the CHOICE not to buy it and buy an alternative brand.

Why are libs so against choice? Why do they feel the nanny-government is in place to direct peoples behavior and subsequently freedom as YOU see fit?
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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Does everything have to be an either/or with you?

Just because people agree with the FDA on this issue does not mean they agree with them on every issue.
Exactly.

The FDA is, to an appalling degree, already "in bed" with food manufacturers. I personally disagree with many of the FDA's stances and policies.

However, on THIS issue, to borrow kovert's emphases, they are correct to set boundaries.

To answer Pollyrobin, I would wholeheartedly agree that one should NOT blindly trust the Govt or embrace the concept of a "nanny state" dictating the terms of everything we do,eat whatever. Of course not.

But on "this" issue - then yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

Dealing with the health problems caused by excess sodium intake costs EVERY taxpayer.

If one reads the article posted by the OP it is stated that this is still in the "negotiation" phase and any lowering of sodium content in processed foods would be a gradual process.

As for me? well I'll stick with my home cooked from scratch meals.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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So much for healthcare not impacting those who don't want it.

Now that its passed, here comes all the reasons to restrict freedom... oh and open your wallet while your at it.

Government sucks. Truely.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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So much for healthcare not impacting those who don't want it.

Now that its passed, here comes all the reasons to restrict freedom... oh and open your wallet while your at it.

Government sucks. Truely.
Wow, you have some serious problems. Maybe you are eating too much .....Salt?
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