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Old 03-13-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Afghanistan
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Sounds like you need a new set of friends. The ones you got now are callous and have no regard for your feelings. You are better off spending that time looking for new acquantances that one day can turn into a true friend. They are valuable commodities that can't be often found and when they are should be nourished.

Tell that gang by your absense that you reject them and move on with your life.

Best wishes.
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Hah, CD91, trust me it is not much better in the working world. Frankly your professor was daft for selecting a group leader; when it happens organically I think group work tends to be a lot easier. The critical role of the leader is to find out the strengths of each member and use them to the group's advantage. That one person who doesn't seem to care much about the meat of the presentation could actually be very good at thinking of an activity for getting the audience involved with the presentation somehow (as was the case with a recent group project I had).
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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Sounds like you need a new set of friends. The ones you got now are callous and have no regard for your feelings. You are better off spending that time looking for new acquantances that one day can turn into a true friend. They are valuable commodities that can't be often found and when they are should be nourished.

Tell that gang by your absense that you reject them and move on with your life.

Best wishes.
This sounds good in theory. But really, it's more like they rejected me because they probably don't like me/care about me.

But I'm all for avoiding these people. In fact, that's what I've been doing.
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:52 PM
 
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In the "real world" it's not uncommon to be assigned to a group you've never met, with the expectation that as a team, you'll get the work done. That kind of thing doesn't end with college...

Seriously, if you refuse to ever do a group project again, you're just stunting your own growth. Learning to get along with all kinds of people, even difficult people, is good for you! And the sooner you learn that, and master it, the better off you'll be - in college and in the rest of your life!
This sounds like good advice but really how am I going to do that without forever living my life around other people and being treated like a doormat? I'm not stunting my growth at all, I'm simply eliminating the weeds from my garden.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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That's a lie. Group projects are mainly old school collectivism or communistic in nature: definitely a workplace to avoid. That's the reason why our economy and politicians are so terrible: everything revolves around groups; nothing is really individualistic anymore. However, if you can find a workplace where you have space to do your own tasks without nine people breathing down your neck and sniffing around then you have hit the jackpot.

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In the "real world" it's not uncommon to be assigned to a group you've never met, with the expectation that as a team, you'll get the work done. That kind of thing doesn't end with college...

Seriously, if you refuse to ever do a group project again, you're just stunting your own growth. Learning to get along with all kinds of people, even difficult people, is good for you! And the sooner you learn that, and master it, the better off you'll be - in college and in the rest of your life!

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Old 03-13-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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That's a lie. Group projects are mainly old school collectivism or communistic in nature: defiantly a workplace to avoid. That's the reason why our economy and politicians are so terrible: everything revolves around groups; nothing is really individualistic anymore. However, if you can find a workplace where you have space to do your own tasks without nine people breathing down your neck and sniffing around then you have hit the jackpot.
Find me a workplace that doesn't have some sort of group work from time to time...
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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It's the campus culture that's the problem. I transferred out of my university in Austin, Texas where collectivism is a huge deal; people self-segregate all the freaking time; it's like a third world country at a lot of these colleges (Asians with the Asians, Blacks with Blacks, Yuppies with the Yuppies, etc). But anyway, I transferred out and got lucky because the college I graduated from had a lot more integration and friendly people. It's definitely your college. Believe me. But also be aware that a lot of colleges are big on self-segregation too. It's really pathetic.

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I'm white, but that makes me a minority at my college. I was excited to go to a diverse college, but I find that people self-segregate themselves (meaning they purposely only hang out with their own kind). Maybe they don't realize they're doing it, but I notice.

I'm not gay, but I wear tight pants (maybe some people don't like that, but I'm still gonna do it).

I've never voted, so I guess I'm not politically astute.

I've traveled more than a lot of people. I've only left the country once to go to Canada, but I've traveled a lot in America. Hell, I go to college 2,000 miles away from my high school. And I grew up in a more educated region (not bragging, but it's the truth). So I guess that makes me more worldly than a lot of people at my college.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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You are not understanding me: the workplace that enforces group work all of the time is a place to avoid: it's too third world.

A corporation that emphasizes individual responsibility is the best. You will be lucky to work there. I have a relative who literally works by herself. She does all of the tasks, and technically supervises the workload online. Occasionally she handles customer service over the phone.

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Find me a workplace that doesn't have some sort of group work from time to time...
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Ah, got it. I do agree, since I'm a more individualistic type of person. I think group work is great if you can select the group, if it's forced on you like you said then yes it's definitely crappy.
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Old 03-13-2011, 08:48 PM
 
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It's the campus culture that's the problem. I transferred out of my university in Austin, Texas where collectivism is a huge deal; people self-segregate all the freaking time; it's like a third world country at a lot of these colleges (Asians with the Asians, Blacks with Blacks, Yuppies with the Yuppies, etc). But anyway, I transferred out and got lucky because the college I graduated from had a lot more integration and friendly people. It's definitely your college. Believe me. But also be aware that a lot of colleges are big on self-segregation too. It's really pathetic.
I don't want to transfer. I have 61 credits and I like it here for the most part.
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