I don't find women around my age attractive (early 40s) (percentage, experiences)

[QuickStudy178]

Originally Posted by ans57

Whatever strokes your ego albeit flitting...carry on!

HaHaHaHaHa

Truly successful guys don't need their ego stroked, and they certainly don't need a woman to complete them.

I guess some women can't accept that fact that it is simply a lot more pleasant and fun for a guy to be around a younger woman who has not been trashed by 20 guys, and who still has youthful vitality and optimism, than to be around some 40 or 50 year who has a chip on her shoulder and bags under her eyes.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by QuickStudy178

If a guy has a lot going for him in terms of looks, financial success, and personality, there is absolutely no reason why he, regardless of his age, should settle for anything less than a very attractive 20 or 30 year old.

It really is nice and convenient that age and the aging process is the great equalizer. And it is very fitting indeed that all these aging women who once thought they were God's gift to men, and who at one time felt entitled to be extremely selective, eventually find that one of their most important assets (their looks) does not age nearly as gracefully as money.

It would be nice and convenient if it were a general reality. Nobody ages as nicely as money, but two things are certain. We will all age and the vast majority will never have money, or at least any amount to speak of. So, your little dream here is plagued with the fact that these former hotties were once very selective and these aging, balding, pot bellied men that weren't selected will have no money to buy a young thang. But, dreaming is nice.

As far as trading up and down goes, clearly you have yet to experience a relationship/marriage where such bologna doesn't have a place. Ime, little more is as valuable as the family we have and create. You can't trade that up or down. Of course, if you never have it you won't know to miss it.

[Jellybean50]

Originally Posted by QuickStudy178

HaHaHaHaHa

Truly successful guys don't need their ego stroked, and they certainly don't need a woman to complete them.

I guess some women can't accept that fact that it is simply a lot more pleasant and fun for a guy to be around a younger woman who has not been trashed by 20 guys, and who still has youthful vitality and optimism, than to be around some 40 or 50 year who has a chip on her shoulder and bags under her eyes.

Actually - YOU seem like the one with the chip on your shoulder.

I've heard 20-something yr old guys talk about girls their own age - you must have missed my post. It's not always ALL about looks... you will learn that as you mature. Also, as an older woman - i could care less about a guy's money... as another poster mentioned.

You also seem like you dont like women very much, or know much about them at all. I have plenty of vitality and optimism... and i'm a better person than someone who uses a guy to take care of them and "pamper" them becuz he has money (I didnt even do that when i was younger). Obviously those girls dont care mind the "old MEN's" looks - ie. bags, sags, wrinkles, lack of vitality, etc.

[Jellybean50]

Originally Posted by ChinoCochino

Is this subject that hard to figure out and controversial? In general as women age they won't look as good as when they were in there 20-30s. I think most would agree this is pretty standard unless you have a fetish for older women. Men in general when it comes to looks prefer younger women to a middle aged woman. Whether the man with such a preference to younger women can get such a woman is another discussion.

What you fail to include in your statement IS, men may think the young girls are the most attractive - but they ALL dont want to be in a relationship with them! Some want a woman of a different age - whether it is an older woman, or a woman their own age if they are 30, 40, 50, 60 or whatever! Someone who they feel is more of a good life partner for them.

It's not a FETISH. It's called falling in love with someone for reasons other than looks. Are we in the Twilight Zone here?? Is anyone here over 19 years old??

[QuickStudy178]

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

We will all age and the vast majority will never have money,

So what. Of course the aging loser guys who were unable to do anything financially successful in their life won't have any money and won't have first pick of the women. So what. Is this news?

On the other hand, there are plenty of guys who do have money and they will be able to be selective, as their female counterparts of the same age become less physically desirable every year forward.

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

So, your little dream here is plagued with the fact that these former hotties were once very selective and these aging, balding, pot bellied men that weren't selected will have no money to buy a young thang.

Are you implying that all financially successful 40 and 50 year old men are short and fat and bald? LOL. You must be the one dreaming.

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

As far as trading up and down goes, clearly you have yet to experience a relationship/marriage where such bologna doesn't have a place.

Like 99% of the population, I suppose.

Originally Posted by Braunwyn

Ime, little more is as valuable as the family we have and create. You can't trade that up or down. Of course, if you never have it you won't know to miss it.

Are you living in the USA? Aren't you aware that there are basically seven categories of adults:

1) Those who are single (never married) and pursuing a relationship.

2) Those who are married, but wish they weren't, eg. those long miserable marriages.

3) Those who are married, but currently in the process of divorce.

5) Those who are now divorced.

6) Those who are happily and blissfully married and enjoying family life. The 1%'ers.

7) Those who are single, and too smart to worry about pursuing any meaningful relationship. The other 1%'ers.

So, how many Americans are actually enjoying a wonderful and rewarding family life again?

[QuickStudy178]

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

Actually - YOU seem like the one with the chip on your shoulder.

Why should I have a chip on my shoulder? I pretty much do what I want when I want 24/7. If I feel like having female companionship, I do. If I don't feel like having female companionship, I don't. I have no expectation that any male-female relationship will work out beyond polite conversation and sex.

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

It's not always ALL about looks

Who said it was? Of course, I want a charming sweet personality to go along with knockout looks.

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

Also, as an older woman - i could care less about a guy's money...

Not to be blunt, but it does not matter that YOU couldn't care less about a guy's money, because financially successful guys are not generally looking for older women. So I guess that all works out rather well.

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

You also seem like you dont like women very much, or know much about them at all.

I am crazy about woman. I just don't expect them to add anything truly meaningful to my life that I don't already have. In other words, I don't need a woman to complete me.

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

I have plenty of vitality and optimism... and i'm a better person than someone who uses a guy to take care of them and "pamper" them becuz he has money

Well, its not really "using" per se, unless the woman has led the guy on to think there is anything beyond a superficial relationship. I like to think of it as being "mutually beneficial". In other words, a successful guy can afford a live-in maid, a live-in cook, so why not a charming live-in escort. No fights, no arguments, no discussion of finances, etc. Just peace and harmony. What's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Jellybean50

Obviously those girls dont care mind the "old MEN's" looks - ie. bags, sags, wrinkles, lack of vitality, etc.

I am not talking about 70 and 80 year old men. I am taking about successful guys in their 40's, 50's, and 60's. There are plenty of guys even in their 60's who look pretty good if they have the time and wherewithal to get plenty of exercise, and apparently Viagra has done much to bring back "vitality" in 60 year olds.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by QuickStudy178

So what. Of course the aging loser guys who were unable to do anything financially successful in their life won't have any money and won't have first pick of the women. So what. Is this news?

What it means is that there is more than enough men out there for aging women. I don't buy into the aging woman relationship holocaust fantasy.

On the other hand, there are plenty of guys who do have money and they will be able to be selective, as their female counterparts of the same age become less physically desirable every year forward.

You might want to pause when it comes to your instincts here. You don't have a good track record. You have an abysmal record given that you, by your own words, married a psychopath and spent millions on that failed relationship. Now, you think it's a good idea to go and try to buy a 20-something? It just goes to show that people don't really change. They do the same shyte/different day. As the saying goes, history is bound to repeat itself.

Are you implying that all financially successful 40 and 50 year old men are short and fat and bald? LOL. You must be the one dreaming.

Most men, certainly not all. Although, success does positively correlate with fitness for the most part. Either way, given our conversation in the other thread, it doesn't even matter.

Like 99% of the population, I suppose.

Right, 99% of the population are psychopaths or dysfunctional. Again, you assume that your crazy can be generalized across the board. I certainly hope that's not the case.

Are you living in the USA? Aren't you aware that there are basically seven categories of adults

So, this is just a matter of misery liking company? I think happiness indicators are multivariate. It's not just the marriage, just the job, just the diet, just good genes. There are many variables that play into the reporting of happiness levels.

So, how many Americans are actually enjoying a wonderful and rewarding family life again?

Lets look at indicators to determine that-

• studies have shown that married people tend to earn more money and live longer than singles
• Marriage also appears to promote better health

Even with 48% (or whatever %) of marriages ending in divorce..."psychologists have pointed to marriage as the single most reliable happiness indicator. Across nations and ethnic groups, people report greater happiness from marriage than career, community or money. A 2005 survey from the Pew Research Center substantiates these assertions. Forty-three percent of married respondents reported that they were "very happy," compared to 24 percent of unmarried individuals [source: Pew Research Center]. Those results were consistent for all age groups and genders."

Source

The rest of the article notes that happy marriages start with happy people. That makes all the sense in the world.

[Jellybean50]

QuickStudy - I read another one of your posts regarding women in a different thread... your feelings on them are very obvious. And i hadnt even read that one before i figured it out.

You're saying women have the bags and sags... oh, i didnt realize you were talking about 70 and 80 yr old ones...

I think youre enjoying flaming the threads... everywhere...

you must be, you make no sense.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by QuickStudy178

So, how many Americans are actually enjoying a wonderful and rewarding family life again?

Just a couple of things to add. If you're going to make matter of fact statements, at least back it up with something. A study, article, whatever. Otherwise it's just your opinion and that's not really meaningful when you're conversing with folk other than yourself.

I also want to touch on this part of the article again. "Rather, it has led some psychologists to conjecture that married people are merely more inclined toward happiness since they're happier to begin with. Humans are predisposed to certain happiness ranges depending on their genetics, personality and life circumstances. Also, happier people are generally more social, and it follows that people who actively socialize will be more likely to meet someone they'd like to marry."

This is important to note and it's one of the reasons I don't buy into the "I didn't know s/he was really like this or that". If the above is true, and I believe it is, happy marriages are a result of happy people. Given that it's reliant upon genetics and upbringing, clearly the person is who s/he is before and during the marriage. If you spend a couple of years with a person intimately, I don't see how they can hide their upbringing and natural state (genetics/brain chemistry/whatever). I think this also highlights the possibility of people not being honest with themselves. A happy person with her/his shyte together is not going to be interested in an opposing personality. Rather, I think a person with problems (emotional, mental, whatever) may be more likely to tolerate a mate with problems.

So, perhaps it's not so much "I didn't know s/he was really like this or that", but "I didn't know I was really like this or that". I could be wrong, but this is what my common sense tells me.

[temazepam]

I'm not attracted to men my own age either, so I see where the OP is coming from.