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Old 08-04-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Most of those women are extremely unrealistic, also I have observed that this is a pre dominant attitude amongst American women, I find women from other nations who settled down in the US to be much more friendly and open in this regard, they atleast venture out and make friends with people that send them nice messages instead of shooting them down straightaway, I find most American women on those websites to be having a "princess syndrome", they expect that some prince charming with a multi million dollar McMansion and a sports car with a fat wallet would come drooling to them over their physical beauty, which is hardly ever the case.

Also, most young American women are brought up thinking that only the physical beauty is what defines them and that they needn't develop other qualities to attract quality men, that's one reason they are so extremely selective, they automatically think they will get the best just because they can look good in their make up, LOL. I have often seen these women falling for a man who is more often than not, quite the contrary of their prince charming, a lot of them get used and abused and then realize the folly of thinking the whole world revolves around them just because of their looks, I counsel a lot of these kind of women on a daily basis.



Some of what you say may be right, but again we are all tending to generalize people and nationalities (myself included) probably due to what we have come across due to our sphere of influence.

But what I bolded really made me chuckle as that is EXACTLY what Serbian men say about their women...esp. those who seem to gyrate to what is known as "silicon valley" and it isn't named that due to being the same as the one in CA. Many of these women are obsessed with their looks and dress in what I call "porn chic" even to go to work!

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Old 08-04-2011, 07:30 PM
 
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Default Why does it seem that alot of women complain they can't find a decent man?

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Actually this isn't something I notice personally, but more when I hear certain people in real life and on TV and movies (mostly the latter, sadly) talk. Does Hollywood just present a stupid distorted picture of how things really are?
Most of us realized this a long time ago. Where have you been? And the people of Hollywood are still living in a dream world of make believe.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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The answer to this question is simple...women in America are terrible at choosing their men. It all starts when they are younger they aren't taught to value a good guy or how to recognize a bad apple. They don't choose men they're actually compatible with they choose guys based on stuff like how much money they make or what their job title is. Women actually worry about personality less than men do....yet men are the ones that are considered to be the more shallow gender...that's so laughable.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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Is it really to do with the quality of the men out there or are they simply too picky, holding out for something which does not exist or is so rare in real life? Their criteria often sounds simple enough: someone caring, kind, funny, smart blah blah, these traits aren't exactly rare, yet women complain they can't find Mr. Right or even get a decent date. Fellas, doesn't that annoy you somewhat? They complain because out of the dozens of suitors none meets their lofty standards (or rather, they ***** and moan about the last three when they knew they were getting themselves into ) while a lot of guys can't even find a woman to be abusive to him? lol

Or maybe the other answer, that what you see on TV isn't a real reflection on real life, and is full of women who think they don't really need men, yet constantly whine and complain that they can't find that special someone.
Really?? I hear men complain about not being able to find a good woman. Yet, when a decent woman flirts with them or wants to date them, they say they are not looking for a relationship. Then, they see Megan Fox or Mila Kunis, they go crazy and dream about having relationships with them even if "Barbie" treats them like crap. The guy doesn't see to care that "Barbie" isn't going to want to be with him for long. It seems to me that many men would rather settle with trash than make it work with a good woman.

It seems to me that men have unrealistic expectations. They want a "plastic woman." They want someone with no flaws, long, flowing locks, and someone who has been through A TON of plastic surgery. Not to mention someone who is 5'10" and 120 pounds. Oh, and a size 2 is necessary. The woman has to be perfect. She can't be unemployed or have gone through anything tough.

I know it is true about the unemployment thing. Men don't want an unemployed woman. I know because I used to not have any problem getting dates. Suddenly, I become unemployed and the guy doesn't want anything to do with me. Even though I have paid all my bills on time and still have savings left despite being without steady work for two years. Plus, I am working on training for a new career that is decent paying.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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Then, they see Megan Fox or Mila Kunis, they go crazy and dream about having relationships with them even if "Barbie" treats them like crap. The guy doesn't see to care that "Barbie" isn't going to want to be with him for long. It seems to me that many men would rather settle with trash than make it work with a good woman.

It seems to me that men have unrealistic expectations. They want a "plastic woman." They want someone with no flaws, long, flowing locks, and someone who has been through A TON of plastic surgery. Not to mention someone who is 5'10" and 120 pounds. Oh, and a size 2 is necessary. The woman has to be perfect.
The thing is physical attraction is important for men and women both so I don't see where men are wrong for wanting someone that takes care of themselves. That's totally different from why some women always choose a bad apple. I stay in shape and exercise why shouldn't I expect the same from someone I'm supposed to spend the rest of my life with?
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:44 PM
 
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Really?? I hear men complain about not being able to find a good woman. Yet, when a decent woman flirts with them or wants to date them, they say they are not looking for a relationship. Then, they see Megan Fox or Mila Kunis, they go crazy and dream about having relationships with them even if "Barbie" treats them like crap. The guy doesn't see to care that "Barbie" isn't going to want to be with him for long. It seems to me that many men would rather settle with trash than make it work with a good woman.

It seems to me that men have unrealistic expectations. They want a "plastic woman." They want someone with no flaws, long, flowing locks, and someone who has been through A TON of plastic surgery. Not to mention someone who is 5'10" and 120 pounds. Oh, and a size 2 is necessary. The woman has to be perfect. She can't be unemployed or have gone through anything tough.

I know it is true about the unemployment thing. Men don't want an unemployed woman. I know because I used to not have any problem getting dates. Suddenly, I become unemployed and the guy doesn't want anything to do with me. Even though I have paid all my bills on time and still have savings left despite being without steady work for two years. Plus, I am working on training for a new career that is decent paying.
Whew, this is the most surprising post I have ever seen, I mean, most men prefer women who are petite and curvy, there are lots of tall women who have a complex because most men don't approach them or date them, not saying all men are like that, but a lot of men don't approach women who are taller than them, and at 5'10", a woman is very tall even in America. Most tall women would vouch for this, most men would rather go after shorter women than the taller ones, that said, tall women of course don't have anything even remotely as bad as it is for the short men. I find it very surprising that any man would look for a "barbie" who is 5'10" and 120 pounds, I have never met anyone like that atleast, most men I see wouldn't even mind a little flab on the woman as long as she has a good personality while even a little amount of flab on a guy would automatically turn off all the women from him.

Regarding the unemployment thing, I don't know, I just think it's unfortunate for anyone to be unemployed, and that's something not a lot of us can do anything about, that said, I had gone to a party once where I met this woman who was very good looking and talkative, she told me she was unemployed at that time, however, she had a lot of men hitting on her that night, so I thought it's not as bad for women even if they are unemployed as it is for men, a man without a job wouldn't have any woman even approach him casually, let alone anything more, he is a social outcast to the most extent.
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:48 PM
 
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The thing is physical attraction is important for men and women both so I don't see where men are wrong for wanting someone that takes care of themselves. That's totally different from why some women always choose a bad apple. I stay in shape and exercise why shouldn't I expect the same from someone I'm supposed to spend the rest of my life with?
You are right, anyone that's in good shape and takes proper care of himself would only want to go for someone that's the same way, although I have seen a lot of cases where men who were very fit had partners who were quite the opposite, I guess most men aren't that picky about their partner's weight, most women however, wouldn't want to do anything with someone who is an inch or two shorter than their cut off mark although there can't even be a logical comparison between having lesser height to having excess weight.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I don't think the problem is finding a decent man, or woman. The trick is finding a decent man, who thinks you are a decent women. Have the same child outlook, religious and political beliefs, enjoy the same activities and good communication, in the same relative professional and financial area as you.

Oh, and you have to find each other hot, and be single at the same time, somewhere where you can run into each other to meet.....
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:45 PM
 
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Really?? I hear men complain about not being able to find a good woman. Yet, when a decent woman flirts with them or wants to date them, they say they are not looking for a relationship. Then, they see Megan Fox or Mila Kunis, they go crazy and dream about having relationships with them even if "Barbie" treats them like crap. The guy doesn't see to care that "Barbie" isn't going to want to be with him for long. It seems to me that many men would rather settle with trash than make it work with a good woman.

It seems to me that men have unrealistic expectations. They want a "plastic woman." They want someone with no flaws, long, flowing locks, and someone who has been through A TON of plastic surgery. Not to mention someone who is 5'10" and 120 pounds. Oh, and a size 2 is necessary. The woman has to be perfect. She can't be unemployed or have gone through anything tough.

I know it is true about the unemployment thing. Men don't want an unemployed woman. I know because I used to not have any problem getting dates. Suddenly, I become unemployed and the guy doesn't want anything to do with me. Even though I have paid all my bills on time and still have savings left despite being without steady work for two years. Plus, I am working on training for a new career that is decent paying.
Redroses777, a few days ago I wrote a post about how I experienced 3 women in my life. All were good-looking - and none of them matched me personality-wise. I admit their good looks "hooked" me at first but as time passed and I got to know them better, I realized that their beauty was in no way sufficiently going to compensate for character flaws, personality differences, or emotional issues.

Girl 1 had a great body (she herself said it on the phone before we met) and while we never had sex and we never saw each other unclothed, I noticed her body was indeed nice. Didn't matter. She was not right for me - her personality and mine did not match. I let her go.

Girl 2 was fit as well; not as curvy, but fit, slender, etc. One of the worst personalities I've ever met - I was literally relieved to end it. A chronically critical spirit. Her beauty meant absolutely nothing to me when I finally ended it with her.

Girl 3 is a former model/part-time TV actress. Not kidding, not lying. I've seen some of her model portfolio photographs. I was stunned. Beautiful face, irresistible smile; 5'7", great figure (not smoking hot, but in good shape). Very feminine. Sweet. Nice. Outgoing. Friendly. Charming. I liked her at first; she didn't like me that way. Time passes. We are still friends. She contacts me seeking counsel and advice over certain issues. I try to help her. Next thing I know she likes me. I turn her down - I am no longer interested. Her beauty and attractiveness never changed - but seeing the real her, an insecure and burdened individual - showed me we weren't right for each other. She is still sweet, nice, etc.; but, after getting to know her better, I realized that she wasn't the girl for me. Her model appearance/beauty was not going to make me overlook that.

I did not have sex with Girls 2 and 3 either. Never saw them naked. The only clothes we ever took off in together were jackets/coats. Their jeans showed me they were shapely. But a sexy body means little when two people aren't right for each other.

Best of wishes on your career move - and please hang in there. Many of us men take a long time to learn to see that women are much more than a physical body and a face - but many of us DO learn. I did - and I'm so glad.

I will not preach religion, but here's a verse from the Bible which holds so much truth and relevance with this topic, especially in this day and age...

"Charm is deceitful and beauty is passing, but a woman who fears the LORD, she shall be praised." - Proverbs 31:30

What this means is: charm and beauty ultimately fade - but a woman who fears God - a woman of godly virtue, character, values... a woman whose true beauty comes from WITHIN - that is a woman who will leave a lasting legacy.

Every man should strive to find such a woman. That's my goal.
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Old 08-04-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: USA
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I think that last post was a joke. It is a direct opposite of anything I would ever be involved with.


People take the path of least resistance. I think that applies to looking for someone to date or hang out with. Which isn't the best thing, in my opinion.

I don't use Hollywood to define the type of person I want, nor their intellect.
I really don't fit in with typical society. I am not a TV watcher, I could care less for what is popular,

I get less dates because of it, but I can't see subjugating myself into a media *****.
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