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Old 12-29-2011, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Actually at my age there isn't, the vast majority are taken...why wouldn't I want to increase my options as much as possible? By looking at other countries I increase the probability of finding what I want by an astronomical amount. I'm 35...at my age a lot of women are already divorced, have kids, or are taken. I want the traditional relationship that other guys get to have - a woman I'm attracted to on more than one level, has no kids, and has never been married.
Exactly. The only difference is I'm willing to consider divorced women since I'm divorced. But I think everything you said is true. With the very attractive women, I've found you have to keep them as friends and hope they break up with a guy (assuming relationship, not marriage) and then be there because they're never single long. I had this realization in High School, though I've never really been able to pull it off.

 
Old 12-29-2011, 05:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by wanderlust76 View Post
Actually at my age there isn't, the vast majority are taken...why wouldn't I want to increase my options as much as possible? By looking at other countries I increase the probability of finding what I want by an astronomical amount. I'm 35...at my age a lot of women are already divorced, have kids, or are taken. I want the traditional relationship that other guys get to have - a woman I'm attracted to on more than one level, has no kids, and has never been married.
I'm 31 -- I could say the same exact things about American men, in fact I realize I actually agree with you except the reverse, there really isn't a decent one left here. All that's left are like you said: "divorced, has kids, taken or uninterested in a traditional relationship." Maybe I should look abroad too? Anyways, for me this topic has gone on about 10 pages too long as it is. I hope you find what you're looking for over there, good luck & happy trails.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I'm 31 -- I could say the same exact things about American men, in fact I realize I actually agree with you except the reverse, there really isn't a decent one left here. All that's left are like you said: "divorced, has kids, taken or uninterested in a traditional relationship." Maybe I should look abroad too? Anyways, for me this topic has gone on about 10 pages too long as it is. I hope you find what you're looking for over there, good luck & happy trails.
Doll Eyes, there is one man available who is single with no kids and relationship minded.---> me!
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:18 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Doll Eyes, there is one man available who is single with no kids and relationship minded.---> me!
LOL! Too late. -- I no longer beleive there's reason anymore for me to bother with this area of life based on things that have little to do wit this thread topic. But seriously though, good luck with the overseas women.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:34 AM
 
Location: USA
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So how does this mail order thing actually work? Is there a catalog? Do they list prices? And are there coupons for free shipping!
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Des Moines IA
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As someone stated earlier, women are women, no matter their race, creed, nationality or upbringing. You guys thinking that mail order brides or foreign women will be better as a whole, could be in for a rude awakening. The same things women in America don't like you for (as many of you claim), these foreign women won't like you for those things either. And in my opinion you are taking a bigger financial risk doing this. You are going to be out of pocket a lot of money if that relationship doesn't work. As I said way earlier in the thread, not knocking the hustle, if anyone wants to go that route, God bless 'em, but don't think it is going to be as easy as having your pick of the litter among hot foreign women who are going to love you forever. In the long run it could be more difficult than trying to find someone over in the United States.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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Well the fact that you trash me because of my DUI only proves my point. One mistake disqualifes me from all American women? IT seems to me women these days feel they are owed a George Clooney type man with all the fixings right out of the box with ZERO faults no matter how small. To even be considered for a second date you
1) must be independently wealthy
2) flawless looks
3) have trendy clothes
4) drive a $100 000 vehicle

Maybe its tv or movies I don't know what but this is what American women expect these days I'm forced to go outside our culture to find a normal a women with REALISTIC expectations than so be it.
Oh come on now. You're either really jaded or watching too much Housewives of X, Jersey Shore, I don't know. There are very, very few men who are wealthy, flawless looking, dressed trendily, driving an expensive car. In fact, I can't think of a single one. If that's the criteria fo a man to get a second date...then there would be a very small number of men going out and getting any. We would all be scratching each others eyeballs out for the pick.

And many men these days seem to want a Playboy model woman with a perfect body and an exciting career. And under 25. So it goes both ways.
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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As someone stated earlier, women are women, no matter their race, creed, nationality or upbringing. You guys thinking that mail order brides or foreign women will be better as a whole, could be in for a rude awakening. The same things women in America don't like you for (as many of you claim), these foreign women won't like you for those things either. And in my opinion you are taking a bigger financial risk doing this. You are going to be out of pocket a lot of money if that relationship doesn't work. As I said way earlier in the thread, not knocking the hustle, if anyone wants to go that route, God bless 'em, but don't think it is going to be as easy as having your pick of the litter among hot foreign women who are going to love you forever. In the long run it could be more difficult than trying to find someone over in the United States.
I really have to LOL sometimes. Some of these men are complaining about American women being money-grubbing and materialistic. Why do they think a foreign women is on a website auctioning and selling herself for marriage? Do they really think these women are marrying men they don't know, on the other side of the world, just because they need a man to love them? Just because they want to take care of him?
 
Old 12-29-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by CtownKeith View Post
Well the fact that you trash me because of my DUI only proves my point. One mistake disqualifes me from all American women? IT seems to me women these days feel they are owed a George Clooney type man with all the fixings right out of the box with ZERO faults no matter how small. To even be considered for a second date you
1) must be independently wealthy
2) flawless looks
3) have trendy clothes
4) drive a $100 000 vehicle

Maybe its tv or movies I don't know what but this is what American women expect these days I'm forced to go outside our culture to find a normal a women with REALISTIC expectations than so be it.
I think you're the one projecting your delusional expectations onto women
 
Old 12-29-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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I think you're the one projecting your delusional expectations onto women
Djuna, correct me if I'm wrong, you were a mail order bride, right?
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