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All I can say is I'm glad I'm a WM and get 1st choice with all the babes. When I'm through having them all, then the guys of color can step in and take the leftovers.
Now that Seal is separated with Heidi Klume I think I'll make her my next GF.
From what I've been reading, most white men consider Klum "tainted goods" simply for having been with Seal.
Well, I really gotta fart, so I might as well do it on this thread. Let's talk about stereotypes rooted on socialization. Women who like black men do so because they feel an overt attention they do not receive from the white men that put or have put them on second/third string or consider them mattress material but not life partner material. Black men who fit that dynamic do so in turn over the perceived trophy element of snagging a white woman. And let's differentiate between a woman who likes to have sex with black men recreationally (to include married women in open marriages who are encouraged by their white husband to be pursued sexually by black men) and a woman who likes being SEEN/DATING with a black man. Big difference believe it or not; plenty of college girls getting that notch out of their system but would never get caught dead dating a black man for family and future. At any case, in the case of white women who date black men it's almost invariably a case of a sense of rejection from the main white dating pool and the preference on the part of said woman to be the big fish at the kiddie pool versus plankton at the big pool. Racist as hell and yet statistically relevant a dynamic as can be. Indignation at your discretion. Don't shoot the messenger.
Furthermore, preference for white men/women by minorities is rooted on a Eurocentric socialization pattern where dating white is perceived as dating up and the sense that it provides a social security blanket against the feeling that marrying into one's minority group stunts one's potential for upward mobility. I'm not going to categorically say that these quantifiers are absolute, but in my own experience as a Hispanic man with white complexion, I have been able to experience dynamics that support the benefits of having access to Eurocentric living and dating. I would be a hypocrite in suggesting being of white complexion didn't make my muddling through these dynamics in modern america easier and more attainable. Newsflash, white gets you places in the Western world. *gasp*
The OP is projecting. There are less innocent reasons why she likes white men but doesn't want to be shamed about having them. I know the reasons I prefer white women. They are deeply rooted in being socialized in a Hispanic construct where the white female facial and skin features are regarded as ideal (Hispanic cultures are DEEPLY skin-conscious) and the fact that even as a Hispanic I am attracted to pale skin just like my own. I frankly find the american white girl to have prettier facial features; I've googled this crap LOL. It's the reason why men fantasize about the blonde sexual concept: the idea that the lighter and softer the complexion, the more submissive, fertile and willing to satisfy the woman is, which appeals to my male's desire to impose my sexual control and ultimate release. That's some National Geographic stuff right there but it rings shamefully close to home for me. Conversely, I find most Hispanic women "butterfaces". You can always tell white girl to lose that third chin, but you can't unfluck a jacked up face .
Jest aside, that's a lot of white porn I'm gonna have to un-watch as a teenager before I can date "Lupita" to the rest of the Hispanic world's appeasement.... I'm not ashamed in admitting that, the OP shouldn't be ashamed in admitting that her preference is influenced by some outright racist-a$$ socialization dynamics. I have no problem dating Hispanic women... so long as they look white. How you like them apples! *does like George Bush in an iraqi shoe store*
As to the dude that replied to the OPs online profile. Again, the projection is all the OP. He was rejected and simply picked on the low hanging fruit. If the reason had been because of a religious affiliation or other quantifiable, he would have picked on whatever the reason for the rejection was. Don't extrapolate more into that reaction. If a Hispanic girl would reject me I'd be "why u hatin' on your own?", if a white woman rejected me I would be "You're a racist!" They're completely contradicting accusations and they can easily come from the same person, proving it has nothing to do with the quantifier, it's a simpleton reaction to the rejection itself. Again, it says more about the OPs sentiments on what motivates her to be attracted to white men than "Mr. Rodriguez"'s hangups.
Lastly. Online dating is not some bona fide mainstream dating alternative. It is still a bullpen of dating. Work, school, outward social circles. That's it. Those are the big three. Anything outside of that (bars, clubs, online...) is concessionary and you get to muddle through the riff raff. It is what it is. So I wouldn't be putting much credence in the kind of volume one pulls from online dating; this is specifically aimed at the women who flaunt that metric. I wouldn't go to my buddies and flaunt the big frozen unfresh fish I bought at the supermarket while they were out fishing for fresh nimble game, if you know what I mean.
Now, can't we all just all get along?
I agree with everything you've said, except for one thing; there is definitely a certain contingent of white women that does not fit in your description ( ie. women rejected by white men,) but who are clearly interested in dating specifically Black men, ( if not to say it's their main interest.) (Speaking of which, I remember one particular scene in Seattle's bar, where there was this group of well-dressed, affluent white women and.... yes, white guys clearly had not to apply. I did chat a bit with a Black guy who was a welcome figure at that table - very classy, good-mannered guy, with good sense of humor. Wouldn't be anything of my interest, but I'm pretty sure, Heidy Klum was not all that unique in her choice of man.)
Another note;
"It's the reason why men fantasize about the blonde sexual concept: the idea that the lighter and softer the complexion, the more submissive, fertile and willing to satisfy the woman is, which appeals to my male's desire to impose my sexual control and ultimate release."
Since what you are saying reflects thoughts/feelings of many men, that statement right there probably explains why Black women ( being quite the opposite of your description ) has smaller chance of success in dating pool.
All I can say is I'm glad I'm a WM and get 1st choice with all the babes.
Mmm... not sure about it either))))
You know, being originally from Eastern Europe, ( back in those days when I was young,) I've got an impression that those men in the Western world that didn't pass the scrutiny of Western women as *marriage material*, were looking for brides somewhere else.
( So it's really a question who chooses whom at the end..)
From what I've been reading, most white men consider Klum "tainted goods" simply for having been with Seal.
Sounds like jealousy to me, Heidi Klum has been pretty frank about being attracted to Seal after seeing his "package" when he was at the gym or on the beach or riding a bike or something.
After that moment, she decided to initiate contact. (And it is pretty rare for women to make a public statement like this too, so it might have just eliminated that whole "virginal innocence" thing that is sooooo important.)
Another racism thread. I think we need a "Relationships - Interracial" sub-sub-forum. You can date whoever you want to, if you can get them, and you shouldn't care what other people think. The reality is that a lot of people, men and women, get upset when someone of their own race chooses to exclude them from their pool of who they would consider. I know of Jewish women who are torqued that Jewish guys don't want to date them, I know of Asian men who are torqued because Asian women don't want to date them, and I know of white guys who are torqued by white women who date black men. And all kinds of other combinations.
There is only one question here, and it doesn't need 600 posts to bear it out: What is it about your OWN race/color/religion that YOU don't like? Most people prefer to date and marry within their own race.
Two things:
1) if you can get someone of the group you want, then help yourself to it. I knew several Middle-Eastern girls who were sequentially chasing American guys. After they figured out it wasn't going to work, guess what, they married Middle-Eastern guys.
2) is this really a problem with Hispanics? Many Hispanic guys have easily hooked up with white women. (BTW, some Hispanics ARE white, but I don't know if you're from Argentina or the Dominican Republic). Similarly, many Hispanic women have easily hooked up with white men. Of all the interracial combos, this one seems to be the least challenged.
There really does need to be an interracial subforum. Im tired of seeing racial threads. Who cares so someone doesnt want to date/marry someone of their own race or someone doesnt like a particular race for some reason and wont date them. Thats life. Not everyone is going to like everybody. People like what they like and if someone is being racist then oh well there is nothing you can do about it. End of discussion.
Well, I really gotta fart, so I might as well do it on this thread. Let's talk about stereotypes rooted on socialization. Women who like black men do so because they feel an overt attention they do not receive from the white men that put or have put them on second/third string or consider them mattress material but not life partner material. Black men who fit that dynamic do so in turn over the perceived trophy element of snagging a white woman. And let's differentiate between a woman who likes to have sex with black men recreationally (to include married women in open marriages who are encouraged by their white husband to be pursued sexually by black men) and a woman who likes being SEEN/DATING with a black man. Big difference believe it or not; plenty of college girls getting that notch out of their system but would never get caught dead dating a black man for family and future. At any case, in the case of white women who date black men it's almost invariably a case of a sense of rejection from the main white dating pool and the preference on the part of said woman to be the big fish at the kiddie pool versus plankton at the big pool. Racist as hell and yet statistically relevant a dynamic as can be. Indignation at your discretion. Don't shoot the messenger.
Furthermore, preference for white men/women by minorities is rooted on a Eurocentric socialization pattern where dating white is perceived as dating up and the sense that it provides a social security blanket against the feeling that marrying into one's minority group stunts one's potential for upward mobility. I'm not going to categorically say that these quantifiers are absolute, but in my own experience as a Hispanic man with white complexion, I have been able to experience dynamics that support the benefits of having access to Eurocentric living and dating. I would be a hypocrite in suggesting being of white complexion didn't make my muddling through these dynamics in modern america easier and more attainable. Newsflash, white gets you places in the Western world. *gasp*
The OP is projecting. There are less innocent reasons why she likes white men but doesn't want to be shamed about having them. I know the reasons I prefer white women. They are deeply rooted in being socialized in a Hispanic construct where the white female facial and skin features are regarded as ideal (Hispanic cultures are DEEPLY skin-conscious) and the fact that even as a Hispanic I am attracted to pale skin just like my own. I frankly find the american white girl to have prettier facial features; I've googled this crap LOL. It's the reason why men fantasize about the blonde sexual concept: the idea that the lighter and softer the complexion, the more submissive, fertile and willing to satisfy the woman is, which appeals to my male's desire to impose my sexual control and ultimate release. That's some National Geographic stuff right there but it rings shamefully close to home for me. Conversely, I find most Hispanic women "butterfaces". You can always tell white girl to lose that third chin, but you can't unfluck a jacked up face .
Jest aside, that's a lot of white porn I'm gonna have to un-watch as a teenager before I can date "Lupita" to the rest of the Hispanic world's appeasement.... I'm not ashamed in admitting that, the OP shouldn't be ashamed in admitting that her preference is influenced by some outright racist-a$$ socialization dynamics. I have no problem dating Hispanic women... so long as they look white. How you like them apples! *does like George Bush in an iraqi shoe store*
As to the dude that replied to the OPs online profile. Again, the projection is all the OP. He was rejected and simply picked on the low hanging fruit. If the reason had been because of a religious affiliation or other quantifiable, he would have picked on whatever the reason for the rejection was. Don't extrapolate more into that reaction. If a Hispanic girl would reject me I'd be "why u hatin' on your own?", if a white woman rejected me I would be "You're a racist!" They're completely contradicting accusations and they can easily come from the same person, proving it has nothing to do with the quantifier, it's a simpleton reaction to the rejection itself. Again, it says more about the OPs sentiments on what motivates her to be attracted to white men than "Mr. Rodriguez"'s hangups.
Lastly. Online dating is not some bona fide mainstream dating alternative. It is still a bullpen of dating. Work, school, outward social circles. That's it. Those are the big three. Anything outside of that (bars, clubs, online...) is concessionary and you get to muddle through the riff raff. It is what it is. So I wouldn't be putting much credence in the kind of volume one pulls from online dating; this is specifically aimed at the women who flaunt that metric. I wouldn't go to my buddies and flaunt the big frozen unfresh fish I bought at the supermarket while they were out fishing for fresh nimble game, if you know what I mean.
Now, can't we all just all get along?
Could you elaborate on that? Are you saying those white girls choose black men because they believe that they'll be seen as the prize of the black community, as opposed to just another white girl in the white community? Am I understanding you correctly?
Could you elaborate on that? Are you saying those white girls choose black men because they believe that they'll be seen as the prize of the black community, as opposed to just another white girl in the white community? Am I understanding you correctly?
Yes, that's what he's saying. What do you have to say about that?
Yes, that's what he's saying. What do you have to say about that?
OK.
I'm not a white woman who likes black men, so I can't truly say. I think it may be the case for some of them, but not all. Some of the white woman who go for black men are still fully engrained in the "white culture".
At the very basis is her low self-esteem powered by racial inferiority complex. It's sub-conscious.
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