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People who have children intentionally are selfish people. They're willing to expose a human to all the horror on the world just so they can feel fulfilled and have someone to care for them when they're old, can't stand people like that. If you want kids, be a decent human and adopt
1)Adoption isn't an easy path for many.
2)I don't know anyone who has kids specifically so that they'll have someone to take care of them when they are elderly. That might become the expectation later on....but it certainly isn't a guarantee, especially these days when kids end up getting jobs very far away.
The issue of who will take care of you when you are old isn't what this thread is about, but it is an interesting one. I've got a childless sibling. Based on what I've observed through my work....I'd bet my own kids would in some way be involved in taking care of her affairs when she gets older...there really is no one else.
Childless elderly people often expect their nieces and nephews to assist them as they get older.
I wonder if some of the posters who vilify those who want and/or have kids feel the same way about their parents for bringing them into this world. I also wonder if they would support legislation limiting the number of children couples could have, if any at all.
If you found the person you couldn't imagine going through life without? Just seems so foreign to me. Is it because some haven't felt that way about anyone they ever dated before? Is it a trust issue? Mommy and daddy issues? If you can see everything the world has to offer in your SO, don't you owe it to the world to bring an awesome kid into it?
Mommy and Daddy issues would have to do with why some people get married, not why some stay single.
I wonder if some of the posters who vilify those who want and/or have kids feel the same way about their parents for bringing them into this world.
I absolutely do. And I have pretty good parents.
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I also wonder if they would support legislation limiting the number of children couples could have, if any at all.
I do support pragmatic legislation, even if it goes against what people perceive as "freedom."
I would restrict the number of children a couple can have (the exact number depends on several factors) and forbid people who are clearly unable to support and properly raise kids from having them.
You're a couple making $18k a year who lives in a rented apartment and is drowning in debt? Sorry, you're gonna have to abort.
I do support pragmatic legislation, even if it goes against what people perceive as "freedom."
I would restrict the number of children a couple can have (the exact number depends on several factors) and forbid people who are clearly unable to support and properly raise kids from having them.
You're a couple making $18k a year who lives in a rented apartment and is drowning in debt? Sorry, you're gonna have to abort.
I agree people want to exercise what they think is freedom and thrust the responsibility on the taxpayer. There's freedom and then there is stupidity. CF should actually get tax cuts I think for not requiring as much public service I think as those with children. I would really prefer to not be paying someone else's spawn.
For those of you who suffered at the hands of your parents, your environment, and/or your own biochemistry that does suck, but it doesn't mean the world cannot be a fascinating and wonderous place for some people. While I agree that many probably shouldn't be procreating, good people certainly should if they desire.
For those of you who suffered at the hands of your parents, your environment, and/or your own biochemistry that does suck, but it doesn't mean the world cannot be a fascinating and wonderous place for some people.
It certainly can be...But then again, for a lot of people it isn't.
As you yourself mentioned, what if your kid is born with a mental disease? Or a physical deformity? Or what if they're born perfectly healthy, but things just don't work out for them, emotionally, socially, or financially, and so they fall into depression as they grow older (like millions of people throughout the world)?
The truth is, it's an incredibly big gamble to make, and if things don't work out, both the parents and their kid(s) will suffer. And I think that the vast majority of couples that decide to have kids don't really think about things like these. All they care about is avoiding their pain and emptiness by finding yet another distraction.
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While I agree that many probably shouldn't be procreating, good people certainly should if they desire.
It's also important to remember that parents have actually relatively little control over the development of their kids. What really matters are things outside their control (like school, the environment the kid is born into, friends etc.) or consciousness.
There is so much brainwashing out there, so many things that will be with your subconscious until they day you die; being a parent is truly an enormous responsibility, and I believe that very, very few people can actually be good parents.
Most either just surrender to the environment and try to rationalize their mistakes ("s/he's gonna be alright"), or try to isolate their kids from society; both approaches are ultimately detrimental.
Starting to think the hatred of humanity is the driving force behind not wanting kids now. If the world is overpopulated, who do you send to slaughter first? My guess is that none of the people who hate others for bringing life into this world will be the first to line up. And what makes your life any more valuable than a baby just leaving its mother's womb? The world isn't a fairly tale place. No parent I know is under the delusion that it is. But to declare that by coercive force, people should not be allowed to have children makes you just as big of an extremist as the dreaded catholic church for its stance on birth control.
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