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I am probably going to get flack the biological nature people but I'm calling crap. I think you are guys are putting to much emphasis on the the pursuit.
This guys not defective we don't know whats going on in his mind or specific details of his and the OP's relationship.
If you like a guy to approach that's great but don't make it into something that all men have to cosign to.
Most men go after what they want. That doesn't mean that all men do.
Going after what you want to me is just a human trait not a male or female trait.
Apparently it is. People cling hard to these gender roles like it's their religion. A lot of you ladies are really defensive about not wanting to ask men out. I mean geez just say you don't ask men out without letting the insults fly and let that be that. Is belittling the men who don't approach really necessary. The guys who don't approach will find other girls who will sense you are so obsessed with enforcing these traditions on everyone through shaming.
Apparently it is. People cling hard to these gender roles like it's their religion.
My point wasn't that men SHOULD go after what they want while women shouldn't. My point was that most men DO go after what they want. Not all men are the same and not all women are the same - but there are some differences between the genders that are fairly common. This isn't BAD. This is just how we are. Most men will go after a woman they are interested in. Most women will let it be known that they are interested. I'm not saying this is how things should be, how they have to be, or anything like that. I'm just saying that this is how things seem to be for the most part.
People get so upset about the whole gender thing. The fact is - men and women are DIFFERENT GENDERS. That's just how it is. Not everything is going to be fair - for either gender. Men cannot give birth. They just can't. This has nothing to do with fairness or equality. This is just the way things are. Now - I don't think that anyone should let their gender define them or do something simply because it's expected of them because of their gender - but I don't understand why so many people seem determined to pretend like gender doesn't account for anything.
My point wasn't that men SHOULD go after what they want while women shouldn't. My point was that most men DO go after what they want. Not all men are the same and not all women are the same - but there are some differences between the genders that are fairly common. This isn't BAD. This is just how we are. Most men will go after a woman they are interested in. Most women will let it be known that they are interested. I'm not saying this is how things should be, how they have to be, or anything like that. I'm just saying that this is how things seem to be for the most part.
People get so upset about the whole gender thing. The fact is - men and women are DIFFERENT GENDERS. That's just how it is. Not everything is going to be fair - for either gender. Men cannot give birth. They just can't. This has nothing to do with fairness or equality. This is just the way things are. Now - I don't think that anyone should let their gender define them or do something simply because it's expected of them because of their gender - but I don't understand why so many people seem determined to pretend like gender doesn't account for anything.
I wasn't referring my post to you DewDrop. You have always been a tolerant and open minded person. I'm talking about the other women on this thread who can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept that men who don't approach doesn't mean that they are inferior just different and not for them. You understand this concept and so does Jade. But some of the other women on here such as Onglet and Kathryn have decided to let the insults fly towards men who even suggest that the OP approach the guy she's referring to. I understand that A lot of people believe in gender roles but for some people it gets to a point where they try to ram it down the throats of everybody.
I wasn't referring my post to you DewDrop. You have always been a tolerant and open minded person. I'm talking about the other women on this thread who can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept that men who don't approach doesn't mean that they are inferior just different and not for them. You understand this concept and so does Jade. But some of the other women on here such as Onglet and Kathryn have decided to let the insults fly towards men who even suggest that the OP approach the guy she's referring to. I understand that A lot of people believe in gender roles but for some people it gets to a point where they try to ram it down the throats of everybody.
I wasn't referring my post to you DewDrop. You have always been a tolerant and open minded person. I'm talking about the other women on this thread who can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept that men who don't approach doesn't mean that they are inferior just different and not for them. You understand this concept and so does Jade. But some of the other women on here such as Onglet and Kathryn have decided to let the insults fly towards men who even suggest that the OP approach the guy she's referring to. I understand that A lot of people believe in gender roles but for some people it gets to a point where they try to ram it down the throats of everybody.
I wasn't referring my post to you DewDrop. You have always been a tolerant and open minded person. I'm talking about the other women on this thread who can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept that men who don't approach doesn't mean that they are inferior just different and not for them. You understand this concept and so does Jade. But some of the other women on here such as Onglet and Kathryn have decided to let the insults fly towards men who even suggest that the OP approach the guy she's referring to. I understand that A lot of people believe in gender roles but for some people it gets to a point where they try to ram it down the throats of everybody.
LOL, I didn't insult anyone personally. I said (repeatedly) that GENERALLY SPEAKING men go after what they want, and I PERSONALLY prefer men who do so.
I also said there are exceptions to this rule. It was a general statement, based on thousands of years of history, and my own personal preferences. Sorry if that offends some people.
(By the way, I also did not insult anyone for disagreeing with me, nor did I "call out anyone" publicly - or privately for that matter. This is an open topic of discussion - disagreements are to be expected.)
Yeah, which is why I mentioned going to the national meeting. It's a one day patient meeting in Pittsburgh in November but the last one I went to was full of much older people (60+) and families who had small children that were recently diagnosed. Most men who have my disorder (and this is coming from my case manager who also has the disorder) want a perfectly healthy woman so they can have children. If I were to get with a man who had my disorder, biological children wouldn't be possible.
I wish you very much happiness. You deserve a wonderful future with the love of a good man, babies, & tranquility, harmony, peace, in your life, darlin'...
I need to be less negative about myself. But it's really difficult to do so when your family says it, your friends say it, and mostly anyone I ever approached or spoken to has said it.
Sorry, but no they don't. And it has nothing to do with fear. I don't ask men out because I don't have to ask men out; they ask me out. I also know that if I did ask men out, getting a yes means the guy looked at me and thought, "Sure I'd hit it" and nothing more. That is true for all women: a man will say yes if he thinks you are f-able, but if he were interested in dating you, he would have asked you in the first place.
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