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Sure there are men who don't date... there have always been men like that. Some are asexual, some are fearful of women, some just have no interest, some like their lives and don't want to change things or complicate it with a relationship, some dedicate their life to something higher than they physical desires. There is nothing wrong with it. Some might argue that some men, by default of nature, have to drop out. For every 100 baby girls born, there are 107 baby boys born. So there are slightly more men than women anyway.
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Sure there are men who don't date... there have always been men like that. Some are asexual, some are fearful of women, some just have no interest, some like their lives and don't want to change things or complicate it with a relationship, some dedicate their life to something higher than they physical desires. There is nothing wrong with it. Some might argue that some men, by default of nature, have to drop out. For every 100 baby girls born, there are 107 baby boys born. So there are slightly more men than women anyway.
The incarceration rates and rates of death due to war and violence more than offsets this differential by our 20s.
The incarceration rates and rates of death due to war and violence more than offsets this differential by our 20s.
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Boys/men have higher rates of mortality. So actually, by the time people reach adulthood, there are slightly more women than men.
I used to think that too, but look at table 2 of the 2010 census... more men than women up until about age 30-39 (this is split into two age groups but things are about even then). After that, then there are more women than men. So for most of their early dating/adult lives, there is a shortage of women for men until they get to about 35 where things even out.
This is just my unscientific observation (so take it with a grain of salt) but it would explain why with dating people on this forum claim that women have the "advantage" up until about 35 and men have the "advantage" after that. It would just be numbers. It's not a lot, but it does seem to effect things as it seems (at least to me and in a very general sense) that you have 20-something men complaining about women being picky and not dating them and then you get 40-something women asking where "all the good men are." That's because the numbers are to a disadvantage for men in their 20s and younger and then a disadvantage for women in their 40s and younger.
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I used to think that too, but look at table 2 of the 2010 census... more men than women up until about age 30-39 (this is split into two age groups but things are about even then). After that, then there are more women than men. So for most of their early dating/adult lives, there is a shortage of women for men until they get to about 35 where things even out.
It would explain why with dating people on this forum claim that women have the "advantage" up until about 35 and men have the "advantage" after that. It would just be numbers.
The census includes people incarcerated, and there is a HUGE incarcerated population in the U.S. Indeed, that article you posted indicates that in some counties where there is a huge male / female imbalance it is because there are prisons.
The unmarried facts are interesting too. Oh well... thought I was on to something
Still think there is nothing wrong with a man who wants to be single/never date though. I just have no data supported reason why now, lol. Guess I will just fall back on my opinion that nothing is wrong with these forever bachelor men.
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I just think some guys realize they are not attractive to women
While there may be a handful like this, it is precious few. The reality is (or it seems to me), especially in my 40s now, is that lots of guys gave up. They have (and frankly, some women have as well) grown sideways. There really is no excuse for being fat for 99% of people (thyroid conditions are fairly rare, can be treated with medication, and really only few pounds, it's really just an excuse). If you stay in shape (if you're single there really is no reason you can't get to the gym 5x a week), have a decent job (both things in your control), even with a homely mug, there is someone out there for you. People just give up and complain.
Oh no, I wasn't trying to bash you over the head or anything, and I don't think there's anything wrong with them, either.
I just think some guys realize they are not attractive to women, and they never will be. Despite a lot of the "advice" that gets doled out here, I think a lot of them are correct. After they realize it, men being pretty rational, they chuck the whole business.
Based on the brief description of the 2 guys in the OP, I'd say they fall into said category.
Didn't think my noggin was being bashed... just figured we were having a friendly debate No worries.
I met a 32 year old man and a 36 year old man who claim they have never been in a relationship and have never even kissed a woman. They said to me "I just don't believe in dating and prefer to stay single. They also said to me "They wanted to live life there and didn't want a woman controlling them and telling them what to do." I'm just like them except I'm 24. Are some men meant to be alone? They seemed to be happy with their situation.
You kind of lost me at "have never even kissed a woman." Men who want no sexual contact with women are pretty rare.
However, there are many, many, MANY men who want to find a way to get their sexual needs met without ever having to make any commitments. That is quite common. In fact, it seems be the norm for most men in their 20s...
If you haven't even hooked up with a girl or been in a relationship, how the hell do you guys have ANY idea what it's like? How do you know your woman will end up controlling you?
This is a fear to act and making excuses at its finest.
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