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Originally Posted by Dewdrop93
I would say that women prefer the guys that they have actual relationships with over the guys that they are with for one night.
Alpha males are also successful in getting relationships because the majority of women prefer alpha males.
And as I said, over time, if the relationship is maintained, the alpha male eventually adopts beta male behavior. But that doesn't change the fact that the woman was initially involved with him because he was an alpha male.
Unfortunately, most women prefer the womanizer, aka alpha male.
Ironically, they claim to want someone who wants more than sex, will listen to their problems, go shopping with them, watch girly movies with them, etc., but that is a different person than the alpha male.
And ultimately, most prefer to be with the alpha male. They say the alpha male is "confident", that is to say, he dominates them, and since they want to be submissive, they go with him.
The weird part is that even many of the tough girls, the kind I am most attracted to, will go with alpha males. You would think a tough girl would want the beta male, since she already has dominance in her life. Weird.
And my opinion of you just went south after that ridiculous post.
Here's a great quote to live by;
'Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt' - Mark Twain
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Originally Posted by Djuna
And my opinion of you just went south after that ridiculous post.
I'm not worried about my reputation in the eyes of someone who has never met me.
I know I'm a nice guy. I know I don't engage in alpha male behavior. It would be difficult to be a 36 year old virgin if I were an alpha male.
But the fact remains, alpha males are more successful at attracting women than beta males.
Take any bar in the world. Who is going to find more success, the guy who approaches each woman with aggression and dominance and says "hey baby want to [vulgar term for making love]?", or the guy who spends hours talking to each one and getting to know them as friends before giving even the slightest indication that they have feelings?
Clearly the first person, the alpha male, is going to have more success. That's true outside of the bar as well. Aggression breeds success, in terms of finding partners.
The sad thing (for beta males like myself) is that so many women want to be dominated as opposed to being equal partners. They don't want to be friends first and have the relationship come naturally over time if there is to be one. If you are friends with them, and not aggressively pursuing a relationship the way an alpha male would, you ultimately are "friendzoned", that is to say you are "nice, but...", as in "you're a great guy and you're so nice but we could never be together".
I wasn't even talking about gal's preference yet you twisted it that way.
Either way interesting to note that you agreed with the notion of nice guys desiring to be womanizers. So it seems more like gals prefer the successful womanizers (alphas) than the unsuccessful womanizers (betas).
I'm not worried about my reputation in the eyes of someone who has never met me.
I know I'm a nice guy. I know I don't engage in alpha male behavior. It would be difficult to be a 36 year old virgin if I were an alpha male.
But the fact remains, alpha males are more successful at attracting women than beta males.
Take any bar in the world. Who is going to find more success, the guy who approaches each woman with aggression and dominance and says "hey baby want to [vulgar term for making love]?", or the guy who spends hours talking to each one and getting to know them as friends before giving even the slightest indication that they have feelings?
Clearly the first person, the alpha male, is going to have more success. That's true outside of the bar as well. Aggression breeds success, in terms of finding partners.
The sad thing (for beta males like myself) is that so many women want to be dominated as opposed to being equal partners. They don't want to be friends first and have the relationship come naturally over time if there is to be one. If you are friends with them, and not aggressively pursuing a relationship the way an alpha male would, you ultimately are "friendzoned", that is to say you are "nice, but...", as in "you're a great guy and you're so nice but we could never be together".
Doesn't matter to me how many women some jock can scoop up at a bar. Odds are, she is just as self centered, and low on grey matter as he is if "Hey baby, want to ****?" gets him in her pants.
Womanizers/playboys are generally attractive, engaging charismatic men. That is how they have the opportunity to be players.
I believe of the men who are not players... 40% if not more would be players but they do not have the opportunity. Either they are not cunning enough, or attractive enough, or have enough time/energy, to juggle women. Not all men, but many would like variety if they could get it and get away with it and have the nerve to take a chance.
Case in point.... two men are in a committed relationship with their women. They both go put of town on a business trip and gets proposition by a gorgeous women to have no strings sex. Both of these men have NEVER cheated or wanted to cheated in their life.
Both men gets seduced and has sex outside of their marriage. In both cases, this event will NEVER be found out.
Both men upon returning home vow to never do it again. One man confesses to his wife something she would have NEVER found out except his conscience bothered him....
The other man buys his woman that diamond necklace she always wanted because his conscience bothered HIM but never tells his wife... he "spares her the grief" and stoically bares the burden himself.
The man who confesses is the one who is not a player because he believes it is wrong. The one who keeps quiet is not a player because he lacks opportunity... situation is not right. If it is... he will do it again. Now maybe it will never be situationally right again... but he is not a player because he is morally above that and doesn't WANT to do it.... it is because he feels he can not.
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