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I have been harassed wearing no makeup and baggy sweats.
The guy waiting in the parking lot for me after leaving a club in college.
The guy at the grocery store who tried to help me load groceries in my car...and he didn't work there.
The doctor who grabbed my chest while I was selling him a beer at the golf course
The coworker who stole my personnel file and called me from the pay phone in my apartment complex
The father of one of my students showing up drunk for parent conferences and making sexual comments.
Most of the above happened in a three year period, and I have left a lot out.
Okay, you're desirable... we get it. Down girl.
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Funny story, my sister the feminist jumps down my throat for a rape joke. But when her fiance makes a joke about killing people she is on the floor laughing.
He was probably talking about killing men, which as feminists and pop culture tell us, is inconsequential.
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Anyone can tell when attention is one way (except sometimes the person giving the attention).
So 50% of the people involved in the interaction, then?
I was reading yesallwomen, and some said men confuse attention and harassment. I'm curious what's the diff? Men are visual creatures and sometimes I can't help but to stare especially since I've been trained to do that by TV/movies/magazines/newspaper ads/ websites. The women on those can't see you back, and hence can't be offended.
I've never said rude sexual things to women, but I know I've stared too much.
So teach me, what's the diff between attention (good) and harassment (bad).
And don't be angry with me. I'm just doing what #Yesallwomen requests. I'm trying to learn so I can make you more comfortable in my presence. I don't want to offend any of you anymore.
You can't be accused of either if you ignore them and go about your own business.
He was probably talking about killing men, which as feminists and pop culture tell us, is inconsequential.
So 50% of the people involved in the interaction, then?
Since I was even harassed when I was very pregnant, I don't think it's anything to do with looks. That has a part to play in it certainly, but even unattractive people can be harassed. I think it's more of a dominance thing than a sexual thing. I have a very innocent look and I looked younger than my age. What my harassers didn't know is that I have a steel backbone and I do not accept harassment. I have zero issue involving the police if you do something illegal.
Men staring too long IMO is not harassment. It's when they stare at you and call you names/ demand sexual favors.
It's not a guy drunkenly bumping into you in a bar. It's a guy repeatedly getting in your personal space and not taking no for an answer.
I think if more men were harassed by women or gay men, there would be more understanding of the situation. I also think there would be less rape humor thrown around.
Last edited by Meyerland; 06-03-2014 at 04:56 PM..
Since I was even harassed when I was very pregnant, I don't think it's anything to do with looks. That has a part to play in it certainly, but even unattractive people can be harassed. I think it's more of a dominance thing than a sexual thing.
Men staring too long IMO is not harassment. It's when they stare at you and call you names/ demand sexual favors.
It's not a guy drunkenly bumping into you in a bar. It's a guy repeatedly getting in your personal space and not taking no for an answer.
I think if more men were harassed by women or gay men, there would be more understanding of the situation. I also think there would be less rape humor thrown around.
Hey I was stalked by my friend's sister for a year it was kind of amusing. She had a shrine of me. I eventually banged her and she moved on to some other dude.
May I suggest you become acquainted with a dictionary?
Steadily directed for how long? There doesn't seem to be any clear distinction between staring and looking. I think a time would be useful in clearing that up. One person suggested 1 second or more makes it staring.
Honestly, outside of work, the only thing I would EVER consider harassment is if a guy I don't know touches me when I haven't given permission, or threatens me with violence, or tries to cause disruption or discord in my life. Talking, staring, flirting, catcalling, trying to contact me, and even sexual innuendo is not harassment to me. (again I'm talking outside of work) I have never had any problems.
This seems counter to most opinions on this thread.
I don;t see the logic in harassing a non attractive person. Most "creeps" are just desperate nerds who don;t know how to get around with obtaining sex
No, most "creeps" are not desperate nerds and there is no logic in harassing anyone - attractive or not attractive.
Most men do not harass women. Most men are not rapists. Most men do not enjoy making women feel uncomfortable or unsafe. If you are a man who does enjoy harassing or raping women or making women feel unsafe or uncomfortable - then you have a problem.
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