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Old 02-20-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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A Self-Made Man - ABC News

Personally, I think it's silly for anyone to argue otherwise.

Some of the conclusions from the dating portion:

-She admits women have all the power in dating

-and the 30 dates she went on with women, she rarely had any fun and the process was just brutal for her

-MOST Women DON'T want 'sensitive' men, they want powerful/assertive men

-at the very end of the segment, she admits being a woman is more of a privilege than being a man

 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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As a woman if I went on a date with 30 women, dressed as a man..... I would imagine it would be pretty brutal.

You wanna dress up as a woman and go on 30 dates with men?
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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It's no surprise or secret that women hold the cards. That doesn't mean it makes dating any easier for them. While women may have more opportunities, especially with online dating where women likely get 100 replies for every 1 that a man gets, she also has to sort through a lot more frogs before she finds that prince.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Women didn't respond well to a straight woman in drag pretending to romance them? Well heck. What's not fun about that?

I like the video of the two men gasping and groaning their way through simulated labor pains. We all have our crosses to bear, I suppose.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler View Post
A Self-Made Man - ABC News

Personally, I think it's silly for anyone to argue otherwise.

Some of the conclusions from the dating portion:

-She admits women have all the power in dating

-and the 30 dates she went on with women, she rarely had any fun and the process was just brutal for her

-MOST Women DON'T want 'sensitive' men, they want powerful/assertive men

-at the very end of the segment, she admits being a woman is more of a privilege than being a man
If you're an average looking woman and above, I think this is probably the case more often than not.

However, my best female friend is going through a terrible stretch of rejection and she's coming down very hard on herself about it. So it's not a cakewalk for all women. Last night, she was telling me she wanted to have plastic surgery to change something about herself. She's only 26 for crying out loud. A lot of women have issues with dating just like the men on here do. We just don't hear about it as much.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Younger attractive women have it easy and enjoy a privileged status in society....always have.

Nature is cruel to everyone but particularly so to women. As they age they basically lose all of their feminine "aura" and charm and turn into more annoying versions of old men. (Men aren't timeless either of course but they enjoy a much longer arcing horizon of sexual relevance.)
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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I heard about that book, self-made man. She is a lesbian. Ronn Owens interviewed her on the legendary KGO a few years ago (back when KGO still had weekday evening talk shows; now it is a shell of its former glory). She said women don't realize how lonely men get and how often they are rejected. She said techniques that worked with her when she was a woman flirting with other women were seen as creepy when she was a man flirting with straight women.

The unfortunate thing about that woman is that she is against transgender people. She thinks there is no such thing as a FTM or MTF. So she has her intolerances and is not perfect.

btw, she "passed" as a man, and the straight women did not realize she was a woman. She was just trying to see if she could get them to agree to go home with her from a bar etc. She would then reveal that she is in fact a woman and ended it there if they didn't want to sleep with her.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Her experiment is biased and flawed from the start because she's not an actual man. She wasn't dating to find a connection with these women she was collecting data. If you've ever written a master's thesis you'd know collecting data is brutal!
 
Old 02-20-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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I think that whoever said this in a previous thread had it right: it is easier for extroverted, outgoing people, regardless of gender or degree of beauty. Extroversion is the key. Extroverted and attractive is probably the group that has it easiest, but even extroverted and ugly would attract more people than introverted and ugly.

Unfortunately in my case I am introverted, ugly, and tend to have a negative (sad) attitude these days, since I've had so many bad experiences in life and love. I guess that's where the "nice, but..." aspect lies.

Of course I have a lot of financial and logistic issues and can't really be with someone right now anyway, but even if those issues were resolved we are still left with a personality of "nice, but...".

So clearly an extroverted, outgoing, positive person would have a lot of advantages over me.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Her experiment is biased and flawed from the start because she's not an actual man. She wasn't dating to find a connection with these women she was collecting data. If you've ever written a master's thesis you'd know collecting data is brutal!
Well, she told Ronn Owens that she would just approach them in the bar, the way a straight man would. She was just asking them out/asking them for sex and see what happens.
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