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Old 03-10-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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and now a days more than ever, men too are now questioning the incentives to be married, and even having children. why? because it's not the sweet all-the-love-you-can-get fairy tale relationship it's promoted as. google "men going their own way" for more...
Oh god, more of this crap. Everything about this stupidity (MGTOW) and PUA, MRA, and status, and relationships being an economic transaction should be banned from this forum just so the quality of the discourse is raised.

I swear, I doubt 5% of people in this country have heard of any of this fringe loser tin foil hat crap.

 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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Oh god, more of this crap. Everything about this stupidity (MGTOW) and PUA, MRA, and status, and relationships being an economic transaction should be banned from this forum just so the quality of the discourse is raised.

I swear, I doubt 5% of people in this country have heard of any of this fringe loser tin foil hat crap.
Someone had to say it
 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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Oh god, more of this crap. Everything about this stupidity (MGTOW) and PUA, MRA, and status, and relationships being an economic transaction should be banned from this forum just so the quality of the discourse is raised.

I swear, I doubt 5% of people in this country have heard of any of this fringe loser tin foil hat crap.
Right? Do every one of these blasted threads have to devolve into bashing and agenda pushing?
 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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Right? Do every one of these blasted threads have to devolve into bashing and agenda pushing?
There's always the vile little negative Nancy's with a giant chip on their shoulder, lurking, ready to infiltrate threads with their women hating agenda. It's a small minority though and they get weeded out eventually.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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Oh god, more of this crap. Everything about this stupidity (MGTOW) and PUA, MRA, and status, and relationships being an economic transaction should be banned from this forum just so the quality of the discourse is raised.

I swear, I doubt 5% of people in this country have heard of any of this fringe loser tin foil hat crap.
Generally, the men who feel this way are the disenfranchised ones. That said, there is something to be said about the economic side of marriage. If you make a lot of money, you have a lot to lose when the marriage falls apart. It pays to be careful.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 07:49 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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There's always the vile little negative Nancy's with a giant chip on their shoulder, lurking, ready to infiltrate threads with their women hating agenda. It's a small minority though and they get weeded out eventually.
They come back with new names. We had several today.

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Generally, the men who feel this way are the disenfranchised ones. That said, there is something to be said about the economic side of marriage. If you make a lot of money, you have a lot to lose when the marriage falls apart. It pays to be careful.
Only if you don't marry a peer. Almost everyone does. The ones that don't are the same stupid dopes that claim they don't care what a woman does for a living or if she's educated, just if she is feminine and good looking.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: In a place beyond human comprehension
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Oh god, more of this crap. Everything about this stupidity (MGTOW) and PUA, MRA, and status, and relationships being an economic transaction should be banned from this forum just so the quality of the discourse is raised.

I swear, I doubt 5% of people in this country have heard of any of this fringe loser tin foil hat crap.
I imagine those types of attitudes are born from entitlement, bitterness, desperation, and loneliness.

I wish some folks would chill the **** out and stop acting like not getting someone is the end of the world. It must be some sort of illness of the mind if this is truly how they think when it comes to relationships and romance.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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I would think that, in this day and age, she is probably really, really smart.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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4) "I have guys that like me, but it's never anyone I can see myself with..."
That's the worst, where millions of women really fail. I know women who follow their desire and end up with the worst kind of guys. Again and again. There is something in women that draws them to liars, abusers, cheaters, alcoholics or plain crazy individuals. Again and again. Women will marry criminals on death row, or someone serving life in prison, when the next door guy is available. Check really well why "you cant see yourself" with any approachable guys. They are there, just pick them up.
Good Luck!
Sounds like you hang with a rough crowd, bro. I don't know any women like that.
 
Old 03-10-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Lets forget the common thinking and try to look differently at these things. Can you answer these questions honestly to yourself?

1) Why should everybody get married? Where is it written? Who says so? (Considering you live in 2015 and not 1015).
She never said everyone should get married. She's saying she wants to, and everyone among her friends and relatives her age has married.
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. 2) If you want, you can have kids without getting married, like millions of other people.
An almost sure road to poverty.
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3) "I'm scared to death I will have no children and die alone".... Even people with children die alone. Its more about how you live than how you die.
4) "I have guys that like me, but it's never anyone I can see myself with..."
That's the worst, where millions of women really fail. I know women who follow their desire and end up with the worst kind of guys. Again and again. There is something in women that draws them to liars, abusers, cheaters, alcoholics or plain crazy individuals. Again and again. Women will marry criminals on death row, or someone serving life in prison, when the next door guy is available. Check really well why "you cant see yourself" with any approachable guys. They are there, just pick them up.
Good Luck!
And guys don't go chasing after the hotties, only to end up divorced, because the wife cheated, or took them to the cleaners in divorce, or was too high-maintenance, or was verbally or emotionally abusive, or was lazy? Then the guys either make the same mistake again, or slink back to the average but kind and sensible women he passed up when he was young, to see if he can talk one of them into giving him a chance.

Most women go for good guys, not abusers, cheaters, alcoholics, or ex-cons. No one intentionally goes for liars, but some find out later their guy's a liar.
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