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Old 06-30-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Small chance it will work out? 65-70% of first marriages work out.

And why does he risk all he's acquired, but not her? Divorce agreements, in the off chance they occur, only split assets acquired during marriage (which is a partnership). Not the stuff before.

And most people marry someone similar age and at a similar professional level and education level. So, marry someone that earns about the same amount, and the fears are gone.

No bubble to burst!

(And I'm not sure you get how rates work, people not getting married don't affect divorce rates other than people that shouldn't have gotten married choose not to get married in the first place... that's a good thing).
Not entirely true. My home will be paid off in a few years and I'm in my 30's. If I marry after paying it off, and divorce, any increase in value would be subject to division in divorce which is very unfair considering I made the sacrifice to be mortgage free in my 30's and could end up with a mortgage again.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: san diego
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My grandmother always said, if you marry for money, you'll earn every penny of it.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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My grandmother always said, if you marry for money, you'll earn every penny of it.
love this...great saying!
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Marriage is a civil contract drawn up government. Not just between two people. Otherwise a law would draw it up as the people agreed to.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Not entirely true. My home will be paid off in a few years and I'm in my 30's. If I marry after paying it off, and divorce, any increase in value would be subject to division in divorce which is very unfair considering I made the sacrifice to be mortgage free in my 30's and could end up with a mortgage again.

That increase would occur during the marriage, correct? Then of course it is 50/50, it is wealth accumulated during the marriage.

If you don't like 50/50 splits of assets accumulated during the marriage, don't get married. Or sell your house and buy one together. Simple.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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That increase would occur during the marriage, correct? Then of course it is 50/50, it is wealth accumulated during the marriage.

If you don't like 50/50 splits of assets accumulated during the marriage, don't get married. Or sell your house and buy one together. Simple.
I mean - that's the thing. Marriage isn't something that happens to you. It's not something that you catch from a public toilet. If it's not for you - simply don't get married.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: san diego
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I mean - that's the thing. Marriage isn't something that happens to you. It's not something that you catch from a public toilet. If it's not for you - simply don't get married.
Lol. Or, if the poster is that fixated on the value of the house or the retirement fund or the other marital assets... there are many attorneys who will happily prepare a prenuptial agreement to address these exigencies.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:35 PM
 
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Were you both good at communicating with each other? From the very beginning? How long did you date her before you got married? Most of the people that I know that had unsuccessful marriages either ignored problems from back when they were dating, didn't communicate, and just let things slide hoping they would just get better on their own.



How do you know who caused the divorces? I've never seen any articles, statistics or anything about who caused divorces. Filing is not the same thing as causing. Many times it is the woman that files because they are the ones that take care of the paperwork - but that has nothing to do with who caused the divorce or even who wanted the divorce.
Omg, I'm not making this up. Do a little research. A divorce is not a divorce until it is filed. I'm not understanding what you mean.
Uplifting Love: 80 Percent of Divorces Are Filed By Women
Divorced Women In America On The Rise, According To New Research
Kleinfeld: Most of the time, wife initiates divorce | Alaska Dispatch News
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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That increase would occur during the marriage, correct? Then of course it is 50/50, it is wealth accumulated during the marriage.
But what work and sacrifice did that person do to get that? Absolutely nothing other than marrying me. The only reason that wealth existed was because of my sacrifices, not theirs, so if a relationship with me ends then so do the benefits of my hard work. Ultimately your views depend on your work ethic. I could never leave a marriage with 50/50 unless I contributed 50.

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If you don't like 50/50 splits of assets accumulated during the marriage, don't get married. Or sell your house and buy one together. Simple.
Oh, I know, which is why I'm smart enough not to get married
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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No one has to get married, and some people are indeed better off not getting married. Men have been on marriage strike for a decade or longer and today you see the effects in how many unmarried people there are and how many of those who are not interested at tying the knot. Im a little sad for those who WOULD possibly want to be married, given they had the right partner, but choose not to, due to unfair family courts that have destroyed millions of mens' lives. Its modern day slavery, it is all it is. Women know it too. I have read dozens if not 100s of accounts of young men getting married, and quickly realizing that their wife not only knew that she had the young husband by the balls, but was very clear in communicating as much. Its a raw deal, in todays family court climate, unless you dont mind being a slave. For those who are happily married, by some strike of luck, best of luck to you - be happy.
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