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Old 12-22-2017, 04:06 PM
 
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I would say it's harder for an average man to find casual sex encounters or FWB than it is for average women.

What really screws up the dynamics are when handsome players sleep with average women and then the average woman has a hard time going back to seeing average men. IMO.

 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:07 PM
 
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That is how the dating market works and why an average guy has trouble finding a date while the average woman has dozens if not hundreds of dating options.
More like options for having sex. Big difference between relationships and sex.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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My gf tells me she was getting 50 messages a day. I got maybe one a week. She was one of them.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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Women have more options for casual sex............but not necessarily for relationships. This is where men and women have a difficult time understanding each other.

Men:

We see our female friends' inbox on the dating website. She's got 50 guys sending her messages but half of them are lewd with cheesy pickup lines. Out of the 25 remaining, maybe 10 don't even have pictures or anything substantial written in the profile. The final 15 guys? 5 are not age appropriate (much younger or older than she wants). Of the final 10 guys that make the cut....she might be attracted to half of them. She's picking from five guys but still needs to talk and go out on dates to determine just how compatible they are. Lots of "options" but most aren't realistic. This scenario describes the experience for relatively attractive women. Average or less attractive women may not even have 5 good candidates out of 50. They're often ignored or viewed as only worthy of a quick fling.


Women:

You can't understand why men always complain about a lack of options. Every guy you know has a good woman by his side. Ladies tend to underestimate the attractiveness of men around them. When a woman says "he's average" or "a decent looking guy", he's actually pretty dang attractive, which is why he doesn't stay single for long. The truly 'average' or even 'below average' looking guys really struggle unless they work on themselves and find out how to maximize their success (good wit, appearance of wealth, extra time in the gym, interesting hobbies etc., depending on the man). Most men have endure countless rejections from various women just to get ONE date. It's hard to put yourself out there and be rejected...not by models mind you....but 'average' women that claim to want every trait you actually have yet still reject you for someone better looking that's less compatible.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:35 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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I would say it's harder for an average man to find casual sex encounters or FWB than it is for average women.

What really screws up the dynamics are when handsome players sleep with average women and then the average woman has a hard time going back to seeing average men. IMO.
Makes me think of what those red pill guys call "alpha widows" (I think?).

Good points.

Most guys want "options" but what they really mean is easy sex. That is definitely more difficult. Women can find sex...but the flip side is that there's less certainty regarding the man's willingness to please her. A guy will usually get his rocks off even if the lady has middling ability in the bedroom.

A woman that's a 5 could easily find men that are 8's and 9's for casual sex if it's clear that she wants nothing but sex. A man that's a 5 can't do that. Of course, he has a better chance of marrying the hot woman whereas the woman rarely gets the hot guy to commit unless she's extremely attractive herself.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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Bottom line: Finding a good, compatible, honest, loving, true relationship is difficult. Period.

There are so many different types of people on this planet.
Humans are complex, flawed, and unpredictable.

Like JGN stated above, some men tend to misconstrue women constantly getting hit on for options, and some women tend to downplay how important options are to men. The main issue there is empathy.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Easily "kitty" is more in demand than stick.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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If women looking for men online would just start spamming them and sending messages like: "hey cutie" " you can walk my dog!" "An artist? Will you paint me in the nude?" "got any more pics" "you're hot!" "what're you up to tonight?" "Too good to answer me?" "Those pics must be old!" and my allllll time favorite: "Nice try!"

As soon as women start acting like men, men will get all the 'unfair advantages' women have OLD.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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No, I think it may be true for the OP and a certain subset of men, but not true overall.

In 2016 there were 60 million married couples, so lets go with 30 million men are married (not all are hetero). https://www.statista.com/statistics/...les-in-the-us/

There are 119 million men in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._United_States
So 50% of the men are MARRIED.

If one third are below average, average and above average that is 40 million in each group. So obviously average men are doing well, as those numbers only apply to married.... doesn't count LTR, living together, etc.

Someone check my math, I've had a cocktail....

Edit: wrong already, 60M couples (so 60 M married men), so my math is off, but that is against the OP and I am not redoing my numbers......
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Someone check my math, I've had a cocktail....

Edit: wrong already, 60M couples (so 60 M married men), so my math is off, but that is against the OP and I am not redoing my numbers......
I will be right over to check your math, as I have had a couple of Cape Cods. (Cranberry juice, vodka, lime twist. Christmassy.)

My guy had no luck on POF, he's smart, funny, hard working, mentally and financially stable. I really have no argument about OLD. being a long shot for men after hearing he had no responses. Twilight zone.
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