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I love how this thread's comments are so focused on bisexual men but very little on bisexual women. Yet the OP's opening post and title implies either.
I fall in love with the *person*, not the person's skin color, eye color, hair color, so forth.
And also... not their 'parts'.
I can fall in love with a white femboy, a Latina, a Black woman, and an Asian femboy all the same. I should know - been there, done that. All of the above.
All about the PERSON and WHO they are, not WHAT they are.
Do secondary sex traits in women like how buxom a woman is or a woman's hip to waist ratio show up on your radar or do they too just seem like parts to you? Or are you mostly just interested in the performative aspects of feminity, wearing skirts, dresses, heels, make up, maybe lingerie but the actual shape of the underlying body isn't that important to you?
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Originally Posted by Sonic_Spork
I don't get why the idea of a man being with another man would be an upsetting visual I couldn't get out of my head any more than the idea of a man being with another woman in the past would. If anything, I might be more troubled by the idea that he had a much younger and prettier woman in his past that he thinks of a lot and that he's somehow comparing me unfavorably to in his mind. Everyone wants a partner who is totally into us and wants to be with us, right? Maybe that's the persisting question..."would this man rather be with another man?" And of course there is the troublesome history with the concept of a "beard". The gay man who has a female partner just to keep up appearances when if not for social stigma he'd just be gay. I get that, but for me, that's a good reason to ditch the stigma. When people feel like they can be honest, without being punished for it, then they will be free to be more genuine about who they are and what they want. (EDIT: Should add, I guess, that the concept of gay male sex does not gross me out, so.../shrug)
So all I can say is that I want partners I can feel confident about, that they are affirmatively into me and happy with me. As long as I feel solid about that, I'm good.
I think a lot of this is about disgust sensitivity. Women's baseline disgust senstivity starts out higher then men's. But sexual arousal can also mediate disgust sensitivity. Back in the 1970's a lot more men thought that women who were gay or lesbians were disgusting. The sterotype back then of lesbians was fat manhating dykes on bikes. Most men however have now watched quite a bit of porn involving women interacting with other women sexually and that really eliminated that prejudice in men against lesbians and bisexual women.
My understanding is that most women just aren't that into porn, but that seems to be changing for younger women. Of the women I have known who did watch porn, they were mostly again watching a lot more women have sex with other women than watching scenes of men having sex with other men. As a result I don't think porn has changed women's disgust sensivity the way it changed men's disgust sensitvity on the topic of bisexuality or homosexuality.
I love how this thread's comments are so focused on bisexual men but very little on bisexual women. Yet the OP's opening post and title implies either.
Because it's more of an issue for men than women. Not much of a stigma for bisexual women in our society, especially the type that is basically straight but occasionally makes out with other girls at keggers while everyone cheers them on, aka "fun at parties". Those types didn't used to identify as bi, but now that it's trendy, they do.
Because it's more of an issue for men than women. Not much of a stigma for bisexual women in our society, especially the type that is basically straight but occasionally makes out with other girls at keggers while everyone cheers them on, aka "fun at parties". Those types didn't used to identify as bi, but now that it's trendy, they do.
Yup.. So pretty much its a problem with society while a lot of these threads try to make it about bisexual men themselves.
Yup.. So pretty much its a problem with society while a lot of these threads try to make it about bisexual men themselves.
What problem? "Divergent" sexualities have gotten acceptance for the most part, or at least tolerance. If many women don't want to date bisexual men it's not a problem, it's their prerogative. For what it's worth, the few openly bisexual men I've known have not tended to have trouble finding women, so the reluctance is obviously not universal.
What problem? "Divergent" sexualities have gotten acceptance for the most part, or at least tolerance. If many women don't want to date bisexual men it's not a problem, it's their prerogative. For what it's worth, the few openly bisexual men I've known have not tended to have trouble finding women, so the reluctance is obviously not universal.
I agree with the prerogative statement.
I've gotten way less judgy the last couple of years in how people live their lives. You do you and I'll do me.
I don't even care about gold diggers, I mean a person has to know when they are being had by one. If someone wants to be sugar daddy or mamma, who the hell am I say anything?
Do secondary sex traits in women like how buxom a woman is or a woman's hip to waist ratio show up on your radar or do they too just seem like parts to you? Or are you mostly just interested in the performative aspects of feminity, wearing skirts, dresses, heels, make up, maybe lingerie but the actual shape of the underlying body isn't that important to you?
I think a lot of this is about disgust sensitivity. Women's baseline disgust senstivity starts out higher then men's. But sexual arousal can also mediate disgust sensitivity. Back in the 1970's a lot more men thought that women who were gay or lesbians were disgusting. The sterotype back then of lesbians was fat manhating dykes on bikes. Most men however have now watched quite a bit of porn involving women interacting with other women sexually and that really eliminated that prejudice in men against lesbians and bisexual women.
My understanding is that most women just aren't that into porn, but that seems to be changing for younger women. Of the women I have known who did watch porn, they were mostly again watching a lot more women have sex with other women than watching scenes of men having sex with other men. As a result I don't think porn has changed women's disgust sensivity the way it changed men's disgust sensitvity on the topic of bisexuality or homosexuality.
"Most"men and "quite a bit." Maybe in your circles.
It does seem to be a thing, but "most" and "quite a bit" are a stretch.
Do secondary sex traits in women like how buxom a woman is or a woman's hip to waist ratio show up on your radar or do they too just seem like parts to you? Or are you mostly just interested in the performative aspects of feminity, wearing skirts, dresses, heels, make up, maybe lingerie but the actual shape of the underlying body isn't that important to you?
I think a lot of this is about disgust sensitivity. Women's baseline disgust senstivity starts out higher then men's. But sexual arousal can also mediate disgust sensitivity. Back in the 1970's a lot more men thought that women who were gay or lesbians were disgusting. The sterotype back then of lesbians was fat manhating dykes on bikes. Most men however have now watched quite a bit of porn involving women interacting with other women sexually and that really eliminated that prejudice in men against lesbians and bisexual women.
My understanding is that most women just aren't that into porn, but that seems to be changing for younger women. Of the women I have known who did watch porn, they were mostly again watching a lot more women have sex with other women than watching scenes of men having sex with other men. As a result I don't think porn has changed women's disgust sensivity the way it changed men's disgust sensitvity on the topic of bisexuality or homosexuality.
I actually have met a few men who were very disgusted by women doing sexual things with other women. They were all from South American cultures. I have no idea if they watch porn, or what kind they like.
I don't watch porn. But I do like scenes in more mainstream film and TV that shows like...moments of passion. Like to me, bouncy bouncy hydraulic action isn't sexy, nor is imagery of genitals. It's that lips parted, head back, "omg this is happening" moment, it's a passionate kiss...those moments on film do reach me. And I've seen those featuring men in contemporary film/TV and found them pretty hot. Torchwood is probably the first and most memorable show that had quite a bit of that sort of thing. I liked it. Not quite to the point of, "I'll be in my bunk" but...I liked it.
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