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I don’t think anyone is predicting some collapse for selfish reasons where they will be smothered in women in the next 3 years. You quoted me, but I’m a person that has had relationships and has been with more women that I should have. And we are talking 20-30+ years out here to where society may be going — most of us will be well past our prime dating years.
20-30 years is far too long a timeline. Try 2-5 years.
Not all women, of course, but just in general. Women who are actually interested in men, and have realistic expectations, get snatched off the market incredibly quickly.
BTW, the girlfriend/boyfriend dynamic is dying. Perpetual loneliness/sexlessness is becoming the "new normal" for men of today. Men with wives or gfs will be almost like a "privileged" class.
Not all women, of course, but just in general. Women who are actually interested in men, and have realistic expectations, get snatched off the market incredibly quickly.
It seems like many of the down to earth women I see that seem to be good wives were married kinda young…like before 22-23 years old. Often both partners are somewhat religious. I’m just speculating but perhaps running the dating/hookup gauntlet of the 20s and early 30s doesn’t really help women (or men) become better marriage partners long term.
Not all women, of course, but just in general. Women who are actually interested in men, and have realistic expectations, get snatched off the market incredibly quickly.
BTW, the girlfriend/boyfriend dynamic is dying. Perpetual loneliness/sexlessness is becoming the "new normal" for men of today. Men with wives or gfs will be almost like a "privileged" class.
Soooo, you think these women are a minority? And in your estimation...sincerely asking, what are realistic expectations?
Yes. The vast majority of women are either entirely apathetic towards men, or actively avoiding them.
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And in your estimation...sincerely asking, what are realistic expectations?
Someone roughly on their level. For example, an average Jane should be expecting to pair up with an average Joe, etc.
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It seems like many of the down to earth women I see that seem to be good wives were married kinda young…like before 22-23 years old. Often both partners are somewhat religious. I’m just speculating but perhaps running the dating/hookup gauntlet of the 20s and early 30s doesn’t really help women (or men) become better marriage partners long term.
Oh, no, the "casual dating"/"hookup" paradigm leaves just about everyone jaded, bitter, and deeply unsatisfied. But as I said earlier, there is no putting this genie back in the bottle.
This is where the angry incel type gets it wrong. It's one thing to understand human nature and try to adapt to it or accept your place in it, it's another to see human nature for what it is and be bitter over it and judge women as being evil over it. Men and women in these discussions both seem to have a sort of contempt for the other sex that doesn't lead to anything constructive and leads to a lot of discontented people. The world, and human nature, is what it is, not what we want it to be. Adapt or die(or be removed from the gene pool). And yes some of our traditional values were designed as group adaptations to the reality of human nature but for good or ill those values are being discarded, so you have to adapt to that as well. All the wishing in the world won't change that.
Thank you, and the more gracefully one adapts the more attractive they appear.
Not all women, of course, but just in general. Women who are actually interested in men, and have realistic expectations, get snatched off the market incredibly quickly.
BTW, the girlfriend/boyfriend dynamic is dying. Perpetual loneliness/sexlessness is becoming the "new normal" for men of today. Men with wives or gfs will be almost like a "privileged" class.
I do not agree with the bold.
As far as the rest of it... please. Ridiculous hyperbolic 'red pill' BS.
Some of ya'll are really doing the most...suggesting society is going to collapse because things are changing in a way you don't agree with or feel comfortable with....talk about being dramatic. Gimme a freaking break. Reminds me of this tweet I saw that basically said in a nutshell, that this is the first time in history that people are learning they have to be "likable" in order to be in a relationship, and a lot of folks don't know how to do that. And it's showing very clearly in some of these posts.
What makes it even more dumb is that the ones who are arguing this don't realize how much of a self drag it is. "In order to reset the balance, we may need total economic collapse" or insert whatever other apocalyptic scenario they can think of. But it translates to "in order for us to get relationships people have to be in a desperate state." Which basically proves the author's point in the article. They don't have the skills or lack the motivation necessary to be a good, likable, and WHOLE person. They think desperation and complete dependance is the only way for them to get what they want. Which is sad.
Like the private rep I got: “women dont have to list their bust size but men have to list their height!” wit? Just straw man arguments and insecurities that have nothing to do with any of my posts. I’d walk away from that guy in public in a second, while he yelled after me: “you think you’re not average?!”
Such a lack of comprehension.
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wit? Just straw man arguments and insecurities that have nothing to do with any of my posts. I’d walk away from that guy in public in a second, while he yelled after me: “you think you’re not average?!”