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Don't go sleeping around without a marriage certificate giving you the right to do so.
A marriage certificate gives you the right to have sex with someone?
Is it illegal to do so without a marriage certificate?
Does the population's majority agree with your sentiments? Heck, even a quarter?
By who's authority said you need to be married to have sex? God? What about the people that don't follow that religion?
Your values are fine... but you really shouldn't subject everyone else to yours. Especially when others have their own values.
I'm inclined to this view. If you don't want to risk pregnancy, then don't have sex.
Men would do well to remember that their right to decide ends with sex. Once they've handed over their sperm, it's no longer their decision what happens if a pregnancy occurs.
As to men being able to give up their responsibility to a child, that's nonsense. Once that child is here, both parents are responsible. He can no sooner give up his responsibility without her consent than she can without his. Both are responsible once the child is here because both were involved in the act that formed the child. It's just not something you can take back.
Men would do well to remember that their right to decide ends with sex. Once they've handed over their sperm, it's no longer their decision what happens if a pregnancy occurs.
That's completely absurd.
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Originally Posted by Ivorytickler
As to men being able to give up their responsibility to a child, that's nonsense. Once that child is here, both parents are responsible. He can no sooner give up his responsibility without her consent than she can without his. Both are responsible once the child is here because both were involved in the act that formed the child. It's just not something you can take back.
OH, I see so, the man has to be RESPONSIBLE for a child but he has no RIGHT to decide whether he wants the child or not?
And vice versa, If he wants it and she doesn't, why does she have the right to kill HIS child if he is willing to take on all responsibility for it?
And vice versa, If he wants it and she doesn't, why does she have the right to kill HIS child if he is willing to take on all responsibility for it?
He cant take on all responsibility until medical science can transfer the embryo to his body or he can pay another woman to carry and deliver the child.
I was reading another article and just wanted to throw it out there to see how others felt about it :should a man have a say on what a woman does with an unplanned pregnancy?
no.
edited to add: but she shouldn't expect child-support & he shouldn't expect 'rights' either
I was reading another article and just wanted to throw it out there to see how others felt about it :should a man have a say on what a woman does with an unplanned pregnancy?
Grrr...this is really a tough question. Somewhat of a dilemma. Because it's "his" child too, even if he's not the one carrying it. Assuming, of course, he IS the father. I mean, let's just take that assumption at face value. He can be made responsible for the child's care if it is born--even if he never wanted it in the first place. But it's not his body either.
Even if you discuss this sort of thing beforehand, I've been told that women can change their minds if they actually find themselves in a "situation".
A man would, should and could have something to say about an unplanned pregnancy if he were married to the mother. Somehow I am getting the idea that this is not the case. If you are not married to her, you have no rights, or shouldn't have. Don't go sleeping around without a marriage certificate giving you the right to do so. Is this the South you are talking about. That is the way people I know do it in the South. Wedding first, honeymoon second. Then work it out.
According to that logic, he shouldn't have to support the child after birth then. After all, he has no rights, or shouldn't have......
According to that logic, he shouldn't have to support the child after birth then. After all, he has no rights, or shouldn't have......
Child support is a responsibility, not a right.
Though, I certainly see your point.
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