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Wow, Mehow the "the professional pick-up artist" is full of sh*t. The reason this girl keeps getting friend zoned is because she's not attractive. She needs to dramatically lower her standards.
OMG that was painful to watch. Do women really conduct themselves in this manner with total strangers? She just reeked of desperation. I'm embarassed for this girl!
The "friend zone" does not exist for women, instead it means that the guy in question simply isn't physically attracted to her.
The closest thing to the friend zone for women tends to happen when they are over 35: the FWB. This is what happens when a man tells the woman that he isn't quite sure he is ready for a relationship while shagging her, even though he knows he just means her in particular. In both, one party is enjoying benefits of the other party without providing benefits in return.
So when a women friend zone's a man, she is taking from him emotional intimacy and companionship without providing him the benefit he wants, sex.
And when a man FWBs a woman, he is taking from her sexual fulfillment without providing her with the benefits she wants, emotional intimacy and companionship.
And finally, what a stupid video. That is not what Girl Game is. Girl Game isn't getting a date and it isn't getting a guy to bang you. Girl Game is getting money and/or a wedding ring. Girl Game is getting commitment.
OMG that was painful to watch. Do women really conduct themselves in this manner with total strangers? She just reeked of desperation. I'm embarassed for this girl!
Yes, yes, and oh, did I mention, yes? Although this isn't confined to women, guys do it too. It's actually somewhat amusing to go into a club like the one on the video, stay sober, and people watch. You'll quickly see that stuff like this video shows is quite common.
That is the definition of the friendzone. No sexual/physical attraction but you keep talking to that person like friends do.
Is this a bad thing? If I meet a woman I don't want to date but who is fun to be around, what should I do? I usually just continue to see her socially but be careful not to send signals that could be mistaken for romantic interest. Personally I think friend-zoning,if it okay to use the gerund form of the term, is a good and natural thing and I don't see why people revile it so much.
Is this a bad thing? If I meet a woman I don't want to date but who is fun to be around, what should I do? I usually just continue to see her socially but be careful not to send signals that could be mistaken for romantic interest. Personally I think friend-zoning,if it okay to use the gerund form of the term, is a good and natural thing and I don't see why people revile it so much.
OMG that was painful to watch. Do women really conduct themselves in this manner with total strangers? She just reeked of desperation. I'm embarassed for this girl!
Generational gap + the fact you're only seeing 5 second snippets of the interaction. Add alcohol + the bar environment and it makes sense. I really don't see the problem. This board often recommends guys who complain about being unsuccessful to get off the computer and meet women. Same thing.
Anyway - she's cute! I would definitely feel lucky if she came up and talked with me =P.
I don't see what the problem with the "PUA" is either - he actually had good advice and directed her appropriately. In fact I know I've seen his advice mentioned on this board before - so I don't get the hate..
The closest thing to the friend zone for women tends to happen when they are over 35: the FWB. This is what happens when a man tells the woman that he isn't quite sure he is ready for a relationship while shagging her, even though he knows he just means her in particular. In both, one party is enjoying benefits of the other party without providing benefits in return.
That is a two way street, my friend. I haven't wanted a long term romantic relationship with any man I have shagged in the last 8 years. Not their fault, it's just not what suits my lifestyle right now. I can assure you that benefits are entirely mutual.
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Although this isn't confined to women, guys do it too. It's actually somewhat amusing to go into a club like the one on the video, stay sober, and people watch. You'll quickly see that stuff like this video shows is quite common.
