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Old 05-05-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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And HE is was not a Christian, but a Jew
Jesus was God, in (Jewish) flesh.

Matthew 1
23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

There were no Christians at that time. The believers (in Christ) were first called Christians several years after Jesus was gone.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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The question is about one religion against another. You don't want to give your property back to the Indians because they don't have a book. But even if they had a book I somehow doubt you'd give them your house.

The same is true with Israel. No one deserves to kick others out of their homes because "a book" told them to.

AND, the Jews (if they really ARE Jews) follow the Torah. The Torah has 10 basic commandments. One of those is "thou shalt not kill." Another is "thou shalt not steal."


It's almost embarrassing that we even need to clarify all this.


Peace,
brian



Well of course if you have no reguard for God's Word. Then you should just ignore the Bible all together, and join the ranks of the heathen. Forget about Jesus Christ because His story is found in the same book. Scripture shows you the land was given to the Jewish people by God. Now you can ignore that, or you can believe it. The Bible is not just some book. It is the Word of God.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Saying we should be as perfect as God is one thing. Yet actually being perfect is two different things. As I have stated, Jesus set the bar so high no one could be that good.
So....as we said earlier, your man-god is saying you should be something that you can never, ever be. ...and then you get punished for not doing what you cannot possibly do. How ludicrous is that.



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And Israel does exist as a nation today, so no, the prophecies have not failed.

Can you please share with us how you believe the prophecy has failed?
Myself and others have been over this with you time and time again. You didn't take any notice of what we said then and it is certain that you won't take any notice now. I could take a whole page explaining it to you and your very next post will be something to the effect of ....'Israel becoming a nation is fulfilment of prophecy'.

Most posters here have learned that trying to have a conversation with you is an exercise in futility.

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Old 05-05-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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It's sad that you actually believe that. I on the other hand, do not...I know the Source from which I originated and it is back to that Source I will return when I shed this material body. It is sad that you don't truly know the loving God you profess such profound belief in.

And I am not judging anyone...I am just attempting to open your eyes to the hypocrisy of the way alleged Christians conduct their lives...which look NOTHING like the Christlike life we are called to live. We are called to BE THE CHANGE we want to see in the world...that means ACTUALLY LIVING A CHRISTLIKE LIFE.

If a nonbeliever looks at a Christian and doesn't see CHRIST...all they see is another nonbeliever with a label. Just saying...



And you just sinned again ChristyGrl. For in post 121 you said I was not walking the walk. Now that is both judging, and bearing false witiness. Especially after you said you were not judging anyone. When in fact. You just judged me. Just saying...

ChristyGrl, someday when you find yourself standing before God. And He asks you why He should let you into His heaven. What will you tell Him?
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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So....as we said earlier, your man-god is saying you should be something that you can never, ever be. How ludicrous is that.



Myself and others have been over this with you time and time again. You didn't take any notice of what we said then and it is certain that you won't taken any notice now. I could take a whole page explaining it to you and your very next post will be something to the effect of ....'Israel becoming a nation is fulfilment of prophecy'.

Most posters here have learned that trying to have a conversation with you is an exercise in futility.




And time and time again you refuse to answer the question. And then you post statements like the one above as if you answered the question long ago. I find people who make comments like this, only do so because they could not answer the question in the past, and they cannot answer the question now. Yet they will go on post after post saying they answered the question, yet refusing to do so now.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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And HE is was not a Christian, but a Jew
Oh please! The term Christian came years after Christ was gone from the earth. Yet the Old Testament fully predicted Christ first, and second coming.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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And time and time again you refuse to answer the question. And then you post statements like the one above as if you answered the question long ago. I find people who make comments like this, only do so because they could not answer the question in the past, and they cannot answer the question now.
Shame on you Campbell!! I and others have explained to you a hundred time how the State of Israel is a 'forced prophecy'....you know we have.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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Oh please! The term Christian came years after Christ was gone from the earth. Yet the Old Testament fully predicted Christ first, and second coming.
...and the NT authors made up a story to make it look as if the prophecy of a Jewish messiah had come true. You just don't get it do you lad?
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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WOW....just WOW. This is what Christianity has come to...the mindlessness of Christ...and it's unbelievable. No wonder people are running away from it in droves...ever wonder why???????????



WOW...just WOW? Why don't you answer my one question ChristyGrl?

When did Christ tell us we could be as perfect as Him?

And how can we be as perfect as God? Especially when Romans 3:23 tells us that all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.

Please no more vague general statements. How about a real answer to a real question.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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...and the NT authors made up a story to make it look as if the prophecy of a Jewish messiah had come true. You just don't get it do you lad?
And did they also make up the story of Israel becoming a nation near the end of time. Maybe your the one who is just ignoring it. And just to let you know, in the Middle East there is a nation over there we now call ISRAEL.
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