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All I'm saying is that it makes no sense for one to say that they do not believe in G-d, because they have to first believe what they're saying is true. Unbelief cannot precede belief in any thing...it's an impossible thought that no one can maintain indefinitely. As for the wind blowing...like the wind the Holy Spirit comes and goes. G-d Blessing all of you folks...
All I'm saying is that it makes no sense for one to say that they do not believe in Santa, because they have to first believe what they're saying is true. Unbelief cannot precede belief in any thing...it's an impossible thought that no one can maintain indefinitely.
All I'm saying is that it makes no sense for one to say that they do not believe in Santa, because they have to first believe what they're saying is true. Unbelief cannot precede belief in any thing...it's an impossible thought that no one can maintain indefinitely.
folks...rm 'believes' that "a logical mind has it's own rewards." For Plato and Sokrates, it was all about the exaltation of the human mind above all. I know you believe in the philosophy of science, a limited pattern of thinking with roots in the ancient philosophy of Plato. You fantasize quite often that you're Sokrates, the mouthpiece of Aristokles (Plato)...asserting with the voice of platonic philosophy that mind is the king of heaven and earth. In reality you're only exalting yourself, harmonizing your own man-centered philosophy with the ancient Sokratic chorus. Same, same....only different? Not even original!
Y'see, folks (to take on lw's folksy tone...). Instead of directly answering and debating my points as I specifically did with did his, he immediately goes to the ad hominem attack.
Proving, good people, that he's fundamentally incapable of conducting a normal straightforward debate of his own points. Having once blurted his incorrect and easily disproven points out, he then runs away, hurtling insults over his shoulder as he retreats back into his dark cave of dispair and denial.
Heaven forbid he should actually address my logical rebuttals, huh? (A desperate & frantic fear of losing all one's arguments on line, in front of everyone, in logical progression, is a nasty and debilitating pathology, obviously...)
Yuppers, an impressive strategy, lil' guy!. Unfortunately, it's also ineffective.
(BTW, it's Socrates, not Sokrates. At least try to get your snarky & little-minded ad homs spelled right, and lest you argumentatively disagree on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates
All I'm saying is that it makes no sense for one to say that they do not believe in Santa, because they have to first believe what they're saying is true. Unbelief cannot precede belief in any thing...it's an impossible thought that no one can maintain indefinitely.
Really because I waited by my fireplace one Christmas eve and he never came. But the universe is still here.
(BTW, it's Socrates, not Sokrates. At least try to get your snarky & little-minded ad homs spelled right, and lest you argumentatively disagree on that: SO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediacrates
I can't see the name Socrates anymore without thinking of this movie. I am ruined.
Some people have a hole or an emptiness inside and seek to tear down something else to try to fill that void, or at least bring others down to their level. You could also say that some gravitate to beliefs to try to fill a void. I'd say the latter is not as negative in outlook as the former.
Arguing religion or politics is like arguing over ice cream. Can there really be one best flavor that everybody would or should like? And if you mix all the flavors together would anybody like it? Would it even be any good? Let everybody have their own favorite and let them be able to enjoy it, just don't deprive them of it or force it on anyone.
Arguing over religion is only like arguing over ice cream if people who like vanilla push vanilla on everyone, they only serve vanilla at their shoppe, and that vanilla has razor blades in it. Oh, and I have never heard of someone bombing a school in the name of vanilla ice cream.
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Let everybody have their own favorite and let them be able to enjoy it, just don't deprive them of it or force it on anyone.
This is exactly why I debunk Christianity and false gods(beliefs). If the Christians and other religions could only grasp this sentence, most of the debunking would probably go away.
All I'm saying is that it makes no sense for one to say that they do not believe in G-d, because they have to first believe what they're saying is true. Unbelief cannot precede belief in any thing...it's an impossible thought that no one can maintain indefinitely.
Does that also apply to the 10,000+ gods you don't believe in?
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As for the wind blowing...like the wind the Holy Spirit comes and goes. G-d Blessing all of you folks...
Except the wind is real. The holy spook, not so much..
hitting back at the people that taught you sin was wrong.
Or rather, shared the opinions of what bronze age goatherders thought was wrong/sin.
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which is easier? changing your behavior or shutting up your critics.
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Shutting up one's "critics" may not be the easier route but is far more preferable than surrendering ones intellect and reason only to become a mindless drone blindly conforming to a collection of outdated morals authored by ignorant men.
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Oooh...that really hurt!
folks...rm 'believes' that "a logical mind has it's own rewards." For Plato and Sokrates, it was all about the exaltation of the human mind above all. I know you believe in the philosophy of science, a limited pattern of thinking with roots in the ancient philosophy of Plato. You fantasize quite often that you're Sokrates, the mouthpiece of Aristokles (Plato)...asserting with the voice of platonic philosophy that mind is the king of heaven and earth. In reality you're only exalting yourself, harmonizing your own man-centered philosophy with the ancient Sokratic chorus. Same, same....only different? Not even original!
