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it's true it has no purpose or meaning, we are just here. some people have 'assigned' themselves an overall purpose -- but that doesn't mean there was one, just they created one and subsequently believed it was "written in stone"
all it does is make them feel better, blowing smoke up their own butts.
for some people there's no point to life and they recognize that for what it is. frankly it's a waste of time to some of us. stuck in this hell hole until otherwise noted.
Last edited by Doll Eyes; 06-25-2012 at 10:10 PM..
So you believe if you are driving along, going through a green light and a mack truck doesn't stop for his red light and runs his big rig right over you, that you authored that event? Wow!
Hey, can you write on my blank paper? I need a few million dollars!
And conversely you believe that god was driving the truck, what a bloody goose he is.
In classical Freudianpsychoanalytic theory, the death drive ("Todestrieb") is the drive towards death, self-destruction and the return to the inorganic: 'the hypothesis of a death instinct, the task of which is to lead organic life back into the inanimate state'.[1] It was originally proposed by Sigmund Freud in 1920 in Beyond the Pleasure Principle, where in his first published reference to the term he wrote of the 'opposition between the ego or death instincts and the sexual or life instincts'.[2] The death drive opposes Eros, the tendency toward survival, propagation, sex, and other creative, life-producing drives. The death drive is sometimes referred to as "Thanatos" in post-Freudian thought, complementing "Eros", although this term was not used in Freud's own work, being rather introduced by one of Freud's followers, Wilhelm Stekel.[3]
The Standard Edition of Freud's works in English confuses two terms that are different in German, Instinkt ("instinct") and Trieb ("drive"), often translating both as instinct. 'This incorrect equating of instinct and Trieb has created serious misunderstandings'.[4] Freud actually refers to the "death instinct" as a drive, a force that is not essential to the life of an organism (unlike an instinct) and tends to denature it or make it behave in ways that are sometimes counter-intuitive. The term is almost universally known in scholarly literature on Freud as the "death drive", and Lacanian psychoanalysts often shorten it to simply "drive" (although Freud posited the existence of other drives as well).
I would prefer not to get into a debate here about Freud and his theories, but I would certainly agree that the only definite meanings our life has is to live it until we die. Anything else we invent for ourselves, and none the worse for that.
The search for 'meaning' is innate and universal. Surely the desire for 'meaning', for a sense of greater purpose than the eat, sleep, have sex and then die suggests some greater significance to life than what our senses tell us through observation?
Or it could be that it's just an artifact of some other brain function. No one thinks there's some cosmic significance to the desire for use to eat unhealthy amounts of fatty foods - it's just side-effect of how our bodies work. Perhaps other desires, such as the desire to find meaning, is similar.
So why are you trying to make a big deal out of it?
Because others are claiming their beliefs are facts, which I dispute.
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Originally Posted by ptsum
Are you trying to make others believe as you do?
No. I'm trying to show that no one knows 100% what happens after death, until they die.
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