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Old 08-31-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Now this would be the Jesus that loves children, right? Yeah, right.

No, this is the Jesus that has no problem with what is written in the Old Testament, and as an observant Jew, in fact, endorses it.

So the discussion comes to disobedient children. As we know in the Old Testament, the right and proper thing to do is to kill them, including stoning them to death. You know, like some fundy Muslims decree today. Oh, hold it, even the fundy Muslims won't stone disobedient children. No, only Jesus subscribes to that. But I digress.

Mark 7:10 says: (and yes, it IS in context, the apologists favorite deflection)
7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
So, seeing Jesus is god or something like that, it seems that Jesus the god did not contradict god the god in the OT. Kill disobedient kids!!! Me, Jesus, says it must be done and it is moral to do so!! Kill your son! Kill your daughter! Kill them if they don't listen. Me, Jesus, the one who tells you how to beat your slaves, now tells you to when to kill your children.
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Old 08-31-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Jesus is the best and most influential man who has ever walked on earth, who spread the universal message of love, peace and forgiveness.

You are misunderstanding the quote totally; in that particular quote Jesus was quoting from Mosaic
Law to show the Pharisees how hypocritical they were. Jesus died for our sins and he never ever said to kill anyone, do any harm or anything bad. Indeed he saved a women (Mary Magdalena) from being stoned to death for adultery. So don't bring a nonsense quote and make people believe Jesus now ask people to kill whether that is an adult or children.

Old Testament/Jewish law does not apply to Christians.

Jesus came to liberate us from the Mosaic Law and to introduce a new covenant with God's people.
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Old 08-31-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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you know the difference between arab and jewish culture is greatly exaggerated. ever seen TV program walking dead?
great example of what happens to a group of red blooded americans when their resources run out. how do they deal out justice? not with a spoon and not over months, they do it in minutes and with a gun.
people in the mideast have scarce resources so justice is swift and severe.
you are taking a picture of sharia law and labeling it jewish, its all the same the same sand box friend.
dont blame it on god, people do this stuff when they run out of money and resources.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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Jesus is the best and most influential man who has ever walked on earth, who spread the universal message of love, peace and forgiveness.

You are misunderstanding the quote totally; Jesus died for our sins and he never ever said to kill anyone, do any harm or anything bad. Indeed he saved a women (Mary Magdalena) from being stoned to death for adultery. So don't bring a nonsense quote and make people believe Jesus now ask people to kill whether that is an adult or children.

Old Testament/Jewish law does not apply to Christians.
Ahhh.... errrrr.... Mark is one of the Gospels! The quote I gave was Jesus speaking in that Gospel.

In what way was that quote "misunderstood"? Just saying it doesn't make it so, even if you don't want to believe what was said. It is clear, it is in context, and it is exactly what Jesus said. In the NT.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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Jesus is the best and most influential man who has ever walked on earth, who spread the universal message of love, peace and forgiveness.

You are misunderstanding the quote totally; Jesus died for our sins and he never ever said to kill anyone, do any harm or anything bad. Indeed he saved a women (Mary Magdalena) from being stoned to death for adultery. So don't bring a nonsense quote and make people believe Jesus now ask people to kill whether that is an adult or children.

Old Testament/Jewish law does not apply to Christians.
Except when they use that law to discriminate against others, like homosexuals, then it is still valid.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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you know the difference between arab and jewish culture is greatly exaggerated. ever seen TV program walking dead?
great example of what happens to a group of red blooded americans when their resources run out. how do they deal out justice? not with a spoon and not over months, they do it in minutes and with a gun.
people in the mideast have scarce resources so justice is swift and severe.
you are taking a picture of sharia law and labeling it jewish, its all the same the same sand box friend.
dont blame it on god, people do this stuff when they run out of money and resources.
But it was the god Jesus who said it, not some anonymous middle eastern resident. You know, the god that a billion or more people hope to be real close with when they die.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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Jesus was just another cult leader if you read the Gospels closely. He isolated his followers from their families and preached the end of the world.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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Jesus was just another cult leader if you read the Gospels closely. He isolated his followers from their families and preached the end of the world.
Another Anti-Christian kid who should be sleeping right now...
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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But it was the god Jesus who said it, not some anonymous middle eastern resident. You know, the god that a billion or more people hope to be real close with when they die.
I guess I need to repeat myself...

You are misunderstanding the quote totally; in that particular quote Jesus was quoting from Mosaic Law to show the Pharisees how hypocritical they were. Jesus died for our sins and he never ever said to kill anyone, do any harm or anything bad. Indeed he saved a women (Mary Magdalena) from being stoned to death for adultery. So don't bring a nonsense quote and make people believe Jesus now ask people to kill whether that is an adult or children.

Old Testament/Jewish law does not apply to Christians.

Jesus came to liberate us from the Mosaic Law and to introduce a new covenant with God's people.

Ps: there are 2.2 billion Christians in the world currently.... Not only a billion.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I guess I need to repeat myself...

You are misunderstanding the quote totally; in that particular quote Jesus was quoting from Mosaic Law to show the Pharisees how hypocritical they were. Jesus died for our sins and he never ever said to kill anyone, do any harm or anything bad. Indeed he saved a women (Mary Magdalena) from being stoned to death for adultery. So don't bring a nonsense quote and make people believe Jesus now ask people to kill whether that is an adult or children.

Old Testament/Jewish law does not apply to Christians.

Jesus came to liberate us from the Mosaic Law and to introduce a new covenant with God's people.

Ps: there are 2.2 billion Christians in the world currently.... Not only a billion.
Read Matthew 5:17
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