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But isn't that just a case of No 9 clarifies no 2" You can't Eve was not not sinless for being talked into eating he apple no more than Adam was sinless because he wasn't the first to do so.
If minor contradictions like that disqualify the Apochrypha, major ones such as we find in the gospels, ought to disqualify those, too.
well Im a Catholic and think we are the real Christians.
what pisses me of is when people have been repeating: "the Pope is the antiChrist" for 500 years.
Well, you won't hear that from we gobbless dastards at any rate, since we believe in an antichrist no more than an antechrist. But what pisses us off a bit is over a thousand years of claiming Papal authority from one of Jesus' more flawed disciples, put in Charge by a demonstrably fictitious passage in Matthew and sent to Rome (in tradition, at least, if not in fact) as Pope Mark 1
Speaking just for myself, I don't suppose Cephas ever went to Rome, but if he did, it was as no friend to Rome or to Pauline Christianity, which is the basis of the Gospels which are the basis of Papal authority.
And we already did Pope Peter 1st's tomb on the Vatican.
I know what the Nicene Creed is. My question was specifically what in the Creed. identifies one as Christian? How much of it does one have to believe? Do we have to agree on what the terms in the Creed are identified as? There are many people from all sorts of interesting belief systems that can all nod their heads and say "Yes--I agree with that"....but we don't believe the same regarding who God is, who Jesus is, what it means for him to die and rise again, etc.
Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.
I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.
To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.
I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.
So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
Did Jesus have a New Testament handy with him? No, so to you he wasn't Christian, he was only Jewish?
Did Paul have a New Testament handy with him? No. Did James? No. Did Mathew? No. Did Mark? No.
Wasn't the first "Christian" to have a version of first New Testament cannon actually Emperor Constantine and his less than 1,000 paid Bishops that came to the canonization meeting he requested?
I'll just remind everyone that it was the Roman Catholic Church that believes none of us are true Christians....so there's that. This feud is not entirely one-way.
I'll just remind everyone that it was the Roman Catholic Church that believes none of us are true Christians....so there's that. This feud is not entirely one-way.
I'll just remind everyone that it was the Roman Catholic Church that believes none of us are true Christians....so there's that. This feud is not entirely one-way.
The at some time conservative leaders of the RRC considered any heretic to be standing against Christian "unity" as they believed Jesus had commanded through Paul and Peter as representative's of Jesus' authority on Earth, and thus "not Christian," otherwise Christians aren't following the Gospel message of Christian unity, which is a bad reflection on Jesus. It's the classic "No True Scottsman [would support a heresy]" fallacy.
No denomination has a monopoly on Christianity. God did not intend for there to be denominations- this was a man made idea. Catholics certainly can be Christians.
I held the view that Catholicism was pagan. However, I have realized that Cathocisn is the original Christianity.
Thr impression I get is that Catholics call themselves Catholics while other denominations tend to call themselves Christians.
I also get the impression that Catholics pray to the Virgin Mary and to the saints.
Now I did say 'impression'.
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We europeans are aware of this.
