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Yeah, right ....Tell me how keeping all the virgins for themselves ensures their survival....It sounds just like what the muslim group in Africa did a few years ago....
Do you agree with the bible on these issues?
The Bible....Justifies and sets out rules for slavery.
Condones the murder of innocent children.
Defines women as the property of men.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction. Jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic-cleanser; a misogynistic homophobic racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.": Richard Dawkins Bible passages that conflict with modern morality
All presidents will be unable to stop all terrorists -- at least until we elect our first clairvoyant president.
Of course authoritarians think that "someone ought to Do Something" and human rights be damned. Ban all Muslims, build a wall, nuke ISIS, etc -- and who cares if it is feasible, moral, or has unintended consequences?
Sorry for the off-topic, but Mordant (and others), what do you think we SHOULD do, if not resist in some way - just stand to the side and allow these attacks to happen over and over again? Or cower in a corner and pray it is not you and your loved ones who become the next victim?
Sorry for the off-topic, but Mordant (and others), what do you think we SHOULD do, if not resist in some way - just stand to the side and allow these attacks to happen over and over again? Or cower in a corner and pray it is not you and your loved ones who become the next victim?
Until we stop fear-mongering and scaring ourselves, we won't be able to deal effectively with the problems that are really responsible for the atrocities of terrorism; we'll just continue chasing easy psuedo-solutions like 'ban all (x)' or 'wall off (y)'.
We should shake ourselves of the 'no matter the cost' mentality that's gripped us, because 'the cost' is always much higher than we're willing to pay.
We should be waging war on terrorism, not the terrorized.
Sorry for the off-topic, but Mordant (and others), what do you think we SHOULD do, if not resist in some way - just stand to the side and allow these attacks to happen over and over again? Or cower in a corner and pray it is not you and your loved ones who become the next victim?
I say it's a socioeconomic issue.
Similar (but to a much lesser degree) to the reasons for the general malaise of working class people in this day and age....the problems are of inequity in power, wealth, and self-worth. When people have very little, they fear (and often value) very little. They value themselves in accordance with how their community values them. When their community is nothing but a perpetual warzone, or an organized crime haven; they simply adapt to their environment. Some try to improve it, some recoil, and others fight the bogeyman they perceive (or are led to perceive). We see degrees of this in gangs, lynchmobs, and organized crime (which is what I equate the actions of terrorists to...albeit more brutal than we're used to in Western societies).
But giving them money won't solve the problem. The problem is in human worth and rebuilding the social orders that have been decimated by self-serving overlords (both foreign and domestic) for a very long time. That starts with a stable and orderly (not oppressive) governance followed by an economic system which allows ordinary people to live nearly as well as their nobles do. You simply can't have a free, safe., and productive society without it (otherwise...pick 2 at best). It's hard work.
Or I suppose you can team up and eradicate the societies producing these villains. And then hope you aren't making the same mistakes in your own...else you'll be eradicating more people who don't deserve to be eradicated.
Sorry for the off-topic, but Mordant (and others), what do you think we SHOULD do, if not resist in some way - just stand to the side and allow these attacks to happen over and over again? Or cower in a corner and pray it is not you and your loved ones who become the next victim?
Prevention is better than cure. Quiet investigation and being ready is best. You cannot win a war even if you win a battle, with this thing. And you cannot do much about a muslim that decides he had to blow up a totally soft target, any more than a Christian Gunman in Norway.
But that will only be firefighting. The battle has to be won from inside by people realizing that all religion is bat**** crazy and to kill for it is criminal insanity. Muslims listen to what we are doing here. And they take it as inspiration to do it There. We need all the help we can get.
Prevention is better than cure. Quiet investigation and being ready is best. You cannot win a war even if you win a battle, with this thing. And you cannot do much about a muslim that decides he had to blow up a totally soft target, any more than a Christian Gunman in Norway.
But that will only be firefighting. The battle has to be won from inside by people realizing that all religion is bat**** crazy and to kill for it is criminal insanity. Muslims listen to what we are doing here. And they take it as inspiration to do it There. We need all the help we can get.
lol haha
So you too believe that it really happened?
Sorry for the off-topic, but Mordant (and others), what do you think we SHOULD do, if not resist in some way - just stand to the side and allow these attacks to happen over and over again? Or cower in a corner and pray it is not you and your loved ones who become the next victim?
No cowering necessary. The odds of being attacked by a terrorist in America are less than the odds of getting struck by lightning or crashing in a commercial airliner. Just as it's also true that violent crime generally and murder specifically has been falling for 30 years now. Just like we haven't had this few police officers die in the line of duty since the Eisenhower administration.
Resist what? How is that actionable? If your enemy is covert, unknown, and diffuse, then running around like a chicken with your head cut off attacking things because it feels good, just plays right into the hands of terrorists. You end up killing civilians, friends, and occasionally an actual enemy, but in that latter case the guy killed will just be replaced by two others, because civilians and friends who are ticked off by war, death and resulting deprivation start to see you as the enemy and become radicalized themselves.
The real solution to jihadism and radicalization is to address poverty and hunger and give young people something to hope for besides 72 virgins. It's to win out over messages of hate with love. That's harder to do, and requires a lot of patience and a long attention span, but it's what will actually help.
The effectiveness of jihadism is that it cannot be instantly fixed by pressing a button or dispatching some tanks or troops. They win, not because we aren't tough enough on them, but because they know we can't see past the end of our collective zotzes and will keep doing what doesn't work.
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