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I'm thinking the OP is referring to religions that have their own Holy book or have their own translation of the Bible that only they use. The two obvious examples have already been mentioned earlier in the thread.
The term "Christian" is broad on this forum. The OP obviously believes the term has been watered down. I get what the OP is trying to say, but the truth of the matter is if they don't like the TOS here there are plenty of other hard line forums for Christians out there. The CD religion forum is not a good place for baby "Christians". It is a lions den that is only one notch above the P&OC forum (and even that is debatable). I would not recommend this forum for anyone that is seriously looking to improve their relationship with Christ. If that bothers anyone they are free to go elsewhere.
Instead of talking about me...why not ask me? I believe that is a violation of the TOS. Don't like it? I'm sure there are plenty of other hard line forums you can go to gossip about people.
Instead of talking about me...why not ask me? I believe that is a violation of the TOS. Don't like it? I'm sure there are plenty of other hard line forums you can go to gossip about people.
Instead of talking about me...why not ask me? I believe that is a violation of the TOS. Don't like it? I'm sure there are plenty of other hard line forums you can go to gossip about people.
I've clarified my position numerous times.
You have been asked multiple times by multiple other users to clarify your argument and you keep saying you don't want to violate TOS. You leave other posters no option other than to speculate what you are getting at. Either spit out what you are trying to say or quit generating ambiguous threads.
Instead of talking about me...why not ask me? I believe that is a violation of the TOS. Don't like it? I'm sure there are plenty of other hard line forums you can go to gossip about people.
I've clarified my position numerous times.
I'm curious. Could you quote that aspect of the TOS?
Instead of talking about me...why not ask me? I believe that is a violation of the TOS. Don't like it? I'm sure there are plenty of other hard line forums you can go to gossip about people.
I've clarified my position numerous times.
OK then DM me the groups you were talking about. i really don't understand what groups you are gossiping about.
No one really has the authority to say what Christianity is (or isn't), because there is no central authority (like the Pope) that rules over all of (western) Christianity anymore.
Christianity has been divided since 1054 AD. Even before that there were different factions with different views: see all of the views that were arbitrarily declared heretical by the various church councils.
That's the thing with religion: it's fundamentally based on authority. When there is no single universally-agreed-upon source of authority in a religion, the religion fragments into competing factions.
Christianity has been divided since 1054 AD. Even before that there were different factions with different views: see all of the views that were arbitrarily declared heretical by the various church councils.
People would be surprised at the number of different flavors of Christianity there were by the end of the first century. I suspect that even then, there were a lot of people saying, "Why should so-and-so have a right to identify as a Christian when he clearly isn't one?"
People would be surprised at the number of different flavors of Christianity there were by the end of the first century. I suspect that even then, there were a lot of people saying, "Why should so-and-so have a right to identify as a Christian when he clearly isn't one?"
Did any of them self-identify as "not Christian" and then try to pass themselves off as Christian?
This isn't about a Christian denomination claiming exclusivity. Please try to understand that.
It appears you have understood our position perfectly.
Well I am glad to hear it. If you are correct we'll have a beer together somewhen in the great beyond, and have a big laugh about Mordant the Atheist finally converted to Mormonism ;-)
While I do not think this likely, I do have a greater appreciation for at least your interpretation of Mormon theology in this matter. I really don't have any need to oppose or argue against beliefs that are privately held and are respectful of the intellectual freedom of others.
As for Universal Reconciliation, that would at one time have been a heresy to me, but now that I understand that most of what fundamentalism believes and teaches about hell and hellthreat owes more to Dante and some questionable translation than to some unassailable and unambiguous statements in scripture, I think wider adoption of UR would be a great positive influence on modern Christianity.
This thread is for me is mostly an example of revisiting a lot of installed assumptions about what constitutes a "True Christian" (tm) and who gets to define that, and for whom. It is food for thought, even though it now has far less import for me as an unbeliever than it would for theists.
I'm thinking the OP is referring to religions that have their own Holy book or have their own translation of the Bible that only they use. The two obvious examples have already been mentioned earlier in the thread.
The term "Christian" is broad on this forum. The OP obviously believes the term has been watered down. I get what the OP is trying to say, but the truth of the matter is if they don't like the TOS here there are plenty of other hard line forums for Christians out there. The CD religion forum is not a good place for baby "Christians". It is a lions den that is only one notch above the P&OC forum (and even that is debatable). I would not recommend this forum for anyone that is seriously looking to improve their relationship with Christ. If that bothers anyone they are free to go elsewhere.
I would, but I would not recommend this forum to anyone who prefers to remain in his denominational doctrines and perceptions that do not reflect an actual commitment to what Jesus taught.
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