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Old 10-28-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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Is it your position that the story of Joshua fixing the sun in the sky for a day (Joshua 10:12-13), the story of Noah's great flood, the story of hordes of dead people coming up out of their graves and wandering the streets of Jerusalem (Matt. 27:52-53), and the story of the corpse of Jesus returning to life and flying away, are in fact nothing more than " allegory, metaphor, symbolism, and allusion?"

Where then, does that leave Zenu and stories of the planet Kolab?
I observe in your posts the behavior of "perseverating" and the manner of a "zealot" and the self admission of "it's all equally silly nonsense" to you. None of which are conducive to a rational discussion.
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Old 10-28-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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Are you suggesting that internet forums such as this one are little more than soapboxes? I am shocked and appalled at the implication.
The threads have a theme. Some posters are obviously not interested in certain topics but perhaps due to lack of maturity they do not realize this or they were in need of a place to get on their soapbox because no one IRL wants to hear it.
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Old 10-28-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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I observe in your posts the behavior of "perseverating" and the manner of a "zealot" and the self admission of "it's all equally silly nonsense" to you. None of which are conducive to a rational discussion.
Please pick out from the following examples the stories which you do not consider nonsense, and allow us to judge just where your opinions on what is nonsense run afoul of your personal religious preferences.

The story of stopping the rotation of the Earth at a command from Joshua; (Judaism and Christianity)

The story of the cleaving of the moon in two at a command from Muhammad; (Islam)

The story of Noah and family collecting a mating pair of every species of non aquatic animal from every part of the planet, then containing them in a very large boat and keeping every one of them alive for several months; (Judaism and Christianity)

The story of Jonah riding around in the belly of a large fish for several days; (Judaism and Christianity)

The story of Buddha sailing through the air emitting streams of water and flames of fire; (Buddhism)

The story in Matthew 27 of hordes of dead people coming up out of their graves and wandering the streets of Jerusalem; (Christianity)

The story of the corpse of Jesus returning to life and flying off up to heaven; (Christianity)

The story of Muhammad riding a flying beast named Al-Baraq up to heaven to visit God; (Islam)

The story that two of the sons of Elohim, Jesus and Satan, came to Earth from the planet Kolab to vie to become the ruling deity over humankind. (Mormonism-Christianity?)

The story that 75 million years ago Zenu, the ruler of the galactic confederacy, brought a kidnapped population to the planet Teegeeack (Earth) aboard space ships which resembled DC-8 aircraft. (Scientology)
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Old 10-28-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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The threads have a theme. Some posters are obviously not interested in certain topics but perhaps due to lack of maturity they do not realize this or they were in need of a place to get on their soapbox because no one IRL wants to hear it.
First of all, I am 70 years old. If I mature much further I will be worm food. Second, topics such as this open up all sorts of possibilities for conversation. I already contributed several comments that dealt directly with the topic of opinion on new age beliefs.
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Old 10-28-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Something tells me you might be one of those people who prefers comic strips to literature. Who maybe in school also called poetry and Shakespeare silly nonsense. Someone perhaps whose eyes glaze over when it comes to allegory, metaphor, symbolism, allusion. Who gets the deer in the headlights look regarding exegesis, explication, imagery and hermeneutics.
Except many religious people do not see these as allegory, metaphor, symbolism or allusion, but as actual historical facts.

Just as some new age beliefs have Jesus as a space man who will return in a flying saucer.

Allegory, metaphor, symbolism or allusion taken literally is nonsense.
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Old 10-28-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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First of all, I am 70 years old. If I mature much further I will be worm food. Second, topics such as this open up all sorts of possibilities for conversation. I already contributed several comments that dealt directly with the topic of opinion on new age beliefs.
Age = maturity is a false equivalency. How many ways and times does one have to state something is not applicable to them?
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Old 10-28-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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But your posts are anti religion. Which displays ignorance. And perpetuates ignorance. If you make no distinction between Buddhism and Jim Jones, between the Amish and Scientology, between the Reverend Martin Luther King calling for peace or an imam ordering a a journalist to be beheaded, or condoning the murder of a daughter who has been raped while the killer and the rapist both go free....then yes that is a gross display of ignorance.
Just because you think something is ignorant, doesn't make it ignorant. Frankly, we atheists think believing in god is ignorant.

Yes, there are distinctions among the groups/people you mention, but religions spring from the same fallacy of beliefs.
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Old 10-28-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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Vegans think carnivores are ignorant.
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Old 10-28-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Vegans think carnivores are ignorant.
Sadly, ignorant is used as a pejorative by some but it simply means "lacking knowledge."
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Old 10-28-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Sadly, ignorant is used as a pejorative by some but it simply means "lacking knowledge."
Yes. The word really shouldn't be used to scorn others but were only humans.
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