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The bottom line is that people are people. We can take a Fundy theist and list those accepted personality traits associated with that person and come up with a mixture of accepted personality traits used by people in the business of people.
It is then more correct to say atheism has those people in it also. And we can discuss how those types of people would express atheism. Then, do we see those types of responses here on CD?
I mean, sure, you guys can focus on me using the term "fundy atheist". but we all know thats a ploy.
You would be more honest if you said you just don't like me saying it instead of trying to deny that atheism doesn't have the same type of people in it as atheism.
and if you don't deny it, then let me alone because thats all I am claiming.
Personality traits are personality traits. Religious beliefs (or non-belief) are religious beliefs (or non-belief). The two are not synonymous. Personality types do not define religious beliefs.
He sure sounds like an atheist, doesn't he? Spits on the Bible, spits in the face with vile lies to fellow Christians who don't support homosexuality. Calling me a blatant liar is a direct personal attack. It is well beyond the means of civilized debate where if you think someone is wrong, just post a counter argument.
And for the record, I only pointed out the hypocrisy of claiming that sexual orientation is programmed at birth and we don't have a choice in the matter yet turning around and championing the punishment of those who had the misfortune of being born with a sexual orientation that you don't approve of. That is a far cry from saying gay people are exactly like pedophiles.
Once again, Jeff claims someone said something they didn't say.... No one said that you said "gay people are exactly like pedophiles". We have said that you compare the two. You also compare gay people to those in incestual relationships, and bestiality. You don't have to "directly compare" or say they are "exactly the same" to have compared them. Do you really not understand this? You are playing with words, and losing big time.
Here's a thought experiment for you. If I were to compare you to, oh I don't know, a white supremacist, would you care if I said it only as a comparison, and not that you were "exactly like a white supremacist"? What if I compared you to a gay person? A mentally unstable person? A mentally retarded person? Would you care if it were only meant as a comparison, and not that you were "exactly" like those things?
Except no one makes this argument, especially when talking about the decline of religion in the US. Why would anyone? So you have ZERO examples.
I will use your post right here as my first example.
yes, the nones will out number religious. It has also been stated by people here that "nones" is moving in the right direction. i guess you want me to go back and get the posts?
the fundy think atheist wants all talk of anything religious stopped at all cost. You sticking within the literal confines of the thread title is a great example of it. or trans when he says my claim that its more reasonable to say we are in a system of life is "sorta-a-god" and that I am a theist.
yeah, there is no god and people are leaving religion. yeah, so why will people always believe in something and not nothing? if no god, then what is it believers are experiences? And why will "nones" always out number "no gods of any type"?
oh right, past "bad religion" you don't say anything. the best way to play a game you can't win is not to play."
Personality traits are personality traits. Religious beliefs (or non-belief) are religious beliefs (or non-belief). The two are not synonymous. Personality types do not define religious beliefs.
I never said they did. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said personality types define the expression of belief. fundy heathenism or otherwise.
what they are is, they are not the same connotations. hot head theist and a hot head atheist. A zealot theist and a zealot atheist. A fundy think type atheist and a fundy think type theist. Like when i say I brain wash my kids to be nice. Or I indoctrinate them to help others whenever they can.
it makes some people cringe. It doesn't make it less true.
I then, because we are here on a religious site, look at how Fundy-think type personality's would express atheism? how would those personality disorders express a disbelief in a god? or how would they behave when confronted with an apposing idea. like religion isn't all wrong?
so i ask you.
where is the claim that atheism has some the same personality traits we would assign a fundy theist?
or is it just the use of the word bothering you? and why?
It is not mandatory that atheist deny that we are in a system of life when the data bears that out.
It is not mandatory that we not teach that to people because of how we feel theist will use it.
we can walk the path, as narrow as it may be, with our heads up. side by side with the rational theist.
thats what jesus meant when he said he will come between family's. Jesus said that when you call out your own group members for not holding themselves to the same standard as you do your enemy, you may be as wrong.
the fundy atheist turns that into "But look look, jesus said he will come between families and thats bad.". they completely ignore what it meant. Just like the fundy theist ignores what "the way is through me."
and the fundy atheist can't separate saying that teaching is fine and reject that jesus is god. They have a personality type that is all or nothing and black and white. you are all for us or you are against us.
thats fundy atheist ... not all atheist.
Just like when we say we are talking fundy theist ... harry, if you can her through that irion curtian.
And has anyone other than AA actually met a fundy think atheists either on line or in real life?
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