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By that logic...you could never objectively claim anything...since nothing is infallible, and, honestly, "there is no way to know" anything for sure.
I mean, "it would be dishonest" if one did not admit it's always possible that any claim about the existence of anything could be wrong.
Afraid I am not following your argument here.
Are you saying that you can't objectively claim, with a VERY high degree of certainty and confidence, that the computer you are typing on right now does not exist? There is hard, tangible evidence right at your fingertips (literally and figuratively!), with which no one would argue. Surely that is a different kind of claim than one involving distant objects you have never seen or touched (the existence of Pluto, for example)... which is in turn different from the claim for a supernatural being for which there is no evidence?
No, it was a joke based on a truth (the substance), so it was not an ad hominem. But there IS some reason you responses are not based on what people actually write. Which is the real issue with your posts.
It is not the real issue mentioned in the OP, but your posts rarely relate to the OP, they are usually just personal attacks.
I think the voices in your head are escaping.
ad homien again.
The issue is nones will always out number your sect of atheism.
Are you saying that you can't objectively claim, with a VERY high degree of certainty and confidence, that the computer you are typing on right now does not exist? There is hard, tangible evidence right at your fingertips (literally and figuratively!), with which no one would argue. Surely that is a different kind of claim than one involving distant objects you have never seen or touched (the existence of Pluto, for example)... which is in turn different from the claim for a supernatural being for which there is no evidence?
All claims are not created equal.
what he is saying is that once we all say "yeah, we don't know everything." then what? where do we go from there?
then, like you stated, shouldn't we list the facts then compare each claim side by side.
basing a claim on "my god only" and/or "we feel religion is so dangerous we need to deny everything so theist can't use it and make atheism harder to sell." are just not good bases.
what he is saying is that once we all say "yeah, we don't know everything." then what? where do we go from there?
...except that he said "we don't know ANYthing," which is different than admitting we don't know EVERYthing.
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then, like you stated, shouldn't we list the facts then compare each claim side by side.
basing a claim on "my god only" and/or "we feel religion is so dangerous we need to deny everything so theist can't use it and make atheism harder to sell." are just not good bases.
Agreed. Neither of those is a basis for a solid, defensible claim.
I wouldn't care what Tyson thought because I don't think he is a spiritual person in any sense. He says things that atheists obviously want to hear, but that should have no bearing in my opinion because he comes across so arrogantly.
Funny that. I usually think that the religious and the psychics/spiritualists most often come across as the arrogant ones.
Atheists and Monotheists need to get back to the Heart of Perfect Logic and stop with the personality assessments and criticisms of personal character/label which distract from the main real issues.
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Palm Sunday is the perfect day, because all of his 'arguments' end in .
OK. You made me spit my drink with that one. But still, this is a discussion forum, perhaps it is best to leave the jabbing jokes and undetailed/unflagged complaints somewhere else.
The thought is that Catholics are leaving in droves, but they are being replaced via immigration. That data is not in the survey posted by the OP, it is merely something that I have read elsewhere.
The Catholic Church has indeed been one of the primary driving forces of the Caravans of Economic and street/home Violence refugees. Why not just tax the rich in Central America? Why not just Charity from the Catholic Church to Central America? Why should the Church in Rome be having cake while their members in Central America cannot have bread?
I am simply cognizant of how this world actually is...regardless of how some wish it was or wasn't.
"God Belief" is the standard. Has been...is now...and probably always will be.
Monotheism did not take power against freedom of Polytheism until 1,000 years ago. A new Millenium can start at any minute.
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