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You are defining science in the best possible light and defining religion in a not so good light.
Science is merely defined as: "the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."
Not only has science made innocent mistakes, science, the activity of the study of the natural world has purposefully pushed evils like seen by the Nazis, which was used to promote the industrialization of murder, sterilization, rape, etc. I would argue that religions that promote equality and non-aggression have a better answer to that sort of science.
Science and religion are both pursuits that need a proper moral framework and ethic guidelines.
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Yes, science often gets things wrong, that is not the argument. Science is not being defined in any way here. Thank you for answering the question that religion does not have a better answer to any science claims.
In addition to Reiki practitioners, there are also people who receive Reiki and state they receive positive beneficial results from Reiki. Are practitioners ”making it up” that Reiki does anything? Are recipients of Reiki ”imagining” the benefits? The point is, there can be beneficial results (with Reiki for instance, that is an example) regardless of whether a person or science can explain or understand how something works.
when you use words like ”correct” and ”true” to evaluate something, how do those apply when the results vary from person to person as they do with, for instance, different healing modalities. Do you discount or discard something as ”not true” ”not correct” ”imaginary” when it is effective?
No I don't. I would of course like to know how such things work. In relation to the thread, while spiritual matters which I suppose one can class Reiki as, do not fall under religion as such but perhaps one could say spirituality may in some instances provide a better answer than science for some people. That's if we consider psychology to be a science. Is Reiki a psychological thing? Or is there something else going on? Something along the lines of telepathy? As far as I know, science has been able to provide and answer to the telepathy question.
Just a quickie, it seems accepted that horses have a calming effect on troubled people and it's been determined that it's to do with the horse's heartbeat. It's at a frequency that closely matches certain brainwaves which can be detected by the human brain which calms people. But that is still outside of religion so doesn't answer the OP question.
Yes, science often gets things wrong, that is not the argument. Science is not being defined in any way here. Thank you for answering the question that religion does not have a better answer to any science claims.
In this regards, the difference between science and religion is that science seeks answers - the correct answers. Religion does not - in the slightest.
Science observes phenomenons, develops theories to describe/quantify those phenomena, tests, then, as required, adjusts the theory until it perfectly describes the phenomenon.
Religion imposes its dogma, much developed in the intellectual dark ages, and doesn't even both to take a peek to see if the dogma matches the facts.
Yes, science often gets things wrong, that is not the argument. Science is not being defined in any way here. Thank you for answering the question that religion does not have a better answer to any science claims.
You are misdefining science per the dictionary link I previously gave. You are defining science as perfectly following proper protocols and with proper moral framework. Science is merely the process of seeking to understand, which can be corrupted, tainted, or immoral.
You might "Feel" that science should be defined differently, but that is no different than those that misdefine religion to always put it in the best light.
Science has made false claims that has promoted racism. Religion has at times promoted equality, such as the foundation of the Society of Friends.
You are misdefining science per the dictionary link I previously gave. You are defining science as perfectly following proper protocols and with proper moral framework. Science is merely the process of seeking to understand, which can be corrupted, tainted, or immoral.
You might "Feel" that science should be defined differently, but that is no different than those that misdefine religion to always put it in the best light.
Science has made false claims that has promoted racism. Religion has at times promoted equality, such as the foundation of the Society of Friends.
Can you give examples of this? anything that can be verified QB?
You are misdefining science per the dictionary link I previously gave. You are defining science as perfectly following proper protocols and with proper moral framework. Science is merely the process of seeking to understand, which can be corrupted, tainted, or immoral.
You might "Feel" that science should be defined differently, but that is no different than those that misdefine religion to always put it in the best light.
Science has made false claims that has promoted racism. Religion has at times promoted equality, such as the foundation of the Society of Friends.
Thats right., think of and honest scientist talking to an honest believer. How does the conversation go?
Maybe a better word is "agenda free" scientist and "agenda free" believer in something. People that are just trying to sort out what is going on without any thought past "the best we can do with the information we have."
You are misdefining science per the dictionary link I previously gave. You are defining science as perfectly following proper protocols and with proper moral framework. Science is merely the process of seeking to understand, which can be corrupted, tainted, or immoral.
You might "Feel" that science should be defined differently, but that is no different than those that misdefine religion to always put it in the best light.
Science has made false claims that has promoted racism. Religion has at times promoted equality, such as the foundation of the Society of Friends.
I'm not going jump and shout hurrahs for something religion did "at times", particularly when there were many other times it did just the opposite.
exactly right ... it helped as many as it hurt. 21 million believers went and stopped 7 million slavers. it has utterly destroyed and much as it created. Just like plate tectonics in a way.
Yes, science often gets things wrong, that is not the argument. Science is not being defined in any way here. Thank you for answering the question that religion does not have a better answer to any science claims.
Religion gets things wrong, too and it is science that often shows that to be so.
Apart from which, science is not revealed dogma nut an ongoing discovery of facts so of course it is going to revise its' thepories as it goes on, and the theories get better in that way.
Religion however, being based on Faith in Dogma does not was to revise what it claims to know in the face of facts, which is why it is constantly resisting science but regularly has to play catch -up hoping the people won't notice (1), or get left behind in fundamentalism which will only work if it controls all information.
(1) and even try to make out that is what they were saying all the time. Like the earth is round in Genesis even though it is describing a flat circle scribed out as if by compasses, or adapting 'days' to 14 billion years divided into 7. Though of course Genesis makes it clear they are marked by day and night, morning and evening. I suppose these Excuses only work if they
(x) don't know what the Bible says
(y) trust that the other believers don't look
(z) don't listen to us when we do look.
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