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Old 07-11-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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Now back to the Topic ......
Theists, do you believe any supernatural god exists or do you know any supernatural god exists?
You have deliberately biased the OP against any conceivable evidence by using the adjective "supernatural." The only evidence science is able to gather is "natural." This is direct evidence that this is a "baiting"post designed to provide opportunities to mock or ridicule any whose beliefs or experiences cause them to know God exists. This is also why the OP considers Gldn's God and posts baiting because it involves a completely "natural" God and does NOT involve any "supernatural" God.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Anyone can slant any moral point in order to feel morally superior. That's ok, that's one trait of humans. Our species is not nearly as intellectually advanced as we think we are.
Funny you mention this (and it's a good observation). Yesterday as I was reading a few posts, I starting thinking that a couple of our posters have fallen into the category of "religious nut". And let me make clear, very few christians or other religionists fit into that category. And it has to do with feeling religiously superior...and acting on it.
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Old 07-11-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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I hope that we eventually get lots of decent and honorable theists to reply to my original question with honesty and integrity. There's many theists who "don't" try to ridicule and abuse people who ask them to explain their perspectives with honestly.
The obvious abusers (theists and non theists) here should be ignored by me and others, and I welcome any replies from non abusive and decent theists (my original question concerns theism) , and offer thanks in advance for your upcoming honest and non abusive replies. Thank you.

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Old 07-11-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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I hope that we eventually get lots of decent and honorable theists to reply to my original question with honesty and integrity. There's many theists who "don't" try to ridicule and abuse people who ask them to explain their perspectives with honestly.
The obvious trolls will be ignored by me, and I welcome any replies from non abusive and decent theists, and offer thanks in advance for your upcoming honest and non abusive replies. Thank you.
To be fair, some of your posts do look as if you are here to challenge the religious, which will be used by those who want to argue about tone instead of addressing the post.

Also, calling others trolls is against the rules.
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Old 07-11-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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Anyone can slant any moral point in order to feel morally superior. That's ok, that's one trait of humans. Our species is not nearly as intellectually advanced as we think we are.
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What does this even mean and how is it connected to what I posted?

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Do you KNOW that God does NOT exist, or do you have a believe that God does NOT exist?
Let’s try again to get your answer. And we will move on to address the OP.
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Old 07-11-2021, 05:56 PM
 
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This topic is not about "me".

Please understand, I did not start this topic in order to provide "my" answers to the topic. As stated in my opening post, I am seeking the views of THEISTS and also the reactions of non theists to those theistic responses.
if you can't answer the question when it is asked to you about your own views,
do you "believe god does not exist" or do you "KNOW god does not exist"

then it's akin to someone serving up a meal, insisting and demanding guests eat it, but refusing to eat it yourself.
your motives for serving up the meal, pressuring others to eat it, yet refusing to eat it yourself
reveal shall we say an agenda that is suspicious and not benign
in spite of the oily fawning

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Old 07-11-2021, 05:59 PM
 
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To be fair, some of your posts do look as if you are here to challenge the religious, which will be used by those who want to argue about tone instead of addressing the post.
Also, calling others trolls is against the rules.
bold above, of course he is.
it's utterly transparent.

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Old 07-11-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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Folks, GldnRule is just baiting you (and every time you reply to him he feels like he's winning, regardless of what you write). This topic will only advance if you reply only to genuine, non baiting posts.
that rules out the opening post then
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:05 PM
 
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if you can't answer the question when it is asked to you about your own views,
do you "believe god does not exist" or do you "KNOW god does not exist"

then it's akin to someone serving up a meal, insisting and demanding guests eat it, but refusing to eat it yourself.
your motives for serving up the meal, pressuring others to eat it, yet refusing to eat it yourself
reveal shall we say an agenda that is not benign
in spite of the oily fawning


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that rules out the opening post then
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:08 PM
 
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I hope that we eventually get lots of decent and honorable theists to reply to my original question with honesty and integrity. There's many theists who "don't" try to ridicule and abuse people who ask them to explain their perspectives with honestly.
The obvious abusers (theists and non theists) here should be ignored by me and others, and I welcome any replies from non abusive and decent theists (my original question concerns theism) , and offer thanks in advance for your upcoming honest and non abusive replies. Thank you.
and when a post or thread is deemed decent and honorable, with honesty and integrity,
then we'll consider it.

based on posts thus far, this thread does not meet those named criteria.
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