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I'd describe it as a strong sense and connection with the spiritual (like a 6th sense), which has shown and confirmed itself repeatedly over decades. It's not simplistic as just believing in or knowing God or a god, and nothing further. The foundation and experience comes first, which then starts to fill in the image of greater reality. The "image" of what is out there and what is going on slowly begins to become evident after the 'connection' has been made. The sensing and view of what's out there has to be formed internally, not by external sources, to be validated.
If you dumb things down - especially in a religious context - it won't make sense, and you won't make any attempt to approach it productively. It's about releasing all preconceived ideas and assumptions, emptying oneself, turning up the sensitivity "level", and then not expecting anything time-wise (no preconceived ideas about what and when the information should be coming in or seen). These matters work on different principles than our usual human ones, so we have to let them work on their own terms.
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I'd describe it as a strong sense and connection with the spiritual (like a 6th sense), which has shown and confirmed itself repeatedly over decades. It's not simplistic as just believing in or knowing God or a god, and nothing further. The foundation and experience comes first, which then starts to fill in the image of greater reality. The "image" of what is out there and what is going on slowly begins to become evident after the 'connection' has been made. The sensing and view of what's out there has to be formed internally, not by external sources, to be validated.
If you dumb things down - especially in a religious context - it won't make sense, and you won't make any attempt to approach it productively. It's about releasing all preconceived ideas and assumptions, emptying oneself, turning up the sensitivity "level", and then not expecting anything time-wise (no preconceived ideas about what and when the information should be coming in or seen). These matters work on different principles than our usual human ones, so we have to let them work on their own terms.
That's a good, descriptive post. You talk about "information coming in or seen". What do you mean by "information" and what do you mean by "seen"? Thanks.
I'd describe it as a strong sense and connection with the spiritual (like a 6th sense), which has shown and confirmed itself repeatedly over decades. It's not simplistic as just believing in or knowing God or a god, and nothing further. The foundation and experience comes first, which then starts to fill in the image of greater reality. The "image" of what is out there and what is going on slowly begins to become evident after the 'connection' has been made. The sensing and view of what's out there has to be formed internally, not by external sources, to be validated.
If you dumb things down - especially in a religious context - it won't make sense, and you won't make any attempt to approach it productively. It's about releasing all preconceived ideas and assumptions, emptying oneself, turning up the sensitivity "level", and then not expecting anything time-wise (no preconceived ideas about what and when the information should be coming in or seen). These matters work on different principles than our usual human ones, so we have to let them work on their own terms.
Good explanation, Thor. In earlier times, it would have been expressed as "the Father will call you" if you are listening.
That's a good, descriptive post. You talk about "information coming in or seen". What do you mean by "information" and what do you mean by "seen"? Thanks.
The confirmation and experience of what's out there (i.e. spiritual realm), and what you are picking up, learning about, and experiencing. The information will vary, so I'm mentioning it in a general sense. But it's definitely information. An internal speaking and dialog, in two directions. The percentage either way will depend on the person and his/her circumstances.
The confirmation and experience of what's out there (i.e. spiritual realm), and what you are picking up, learning about, and experiencing. The information will vary, so I'm mentioning it in a general sense. But it's definitely information. An internal speaking and dialog, in two directions. The percentage either way will depend on the person and his/her circumstances.
Can you please tell us precisely how, for you, the "confirmation" confirms the spiritual realm? And would you please describe your mentioned "experience" of the spiritual realm?
Also, what do you mean by "internal speaking and dialog"?
Answering these questions in detail will give readers a clearer comprehension of your reply.
That's a good, descriptive post. You talk about "information coming in or seen". What do you mean by "information" and what do you mean by "seen"? Thanks.
The self deception practiced by GldnRule that his perception equals reality and truth says it all.
What he has is a "belief". He has nothing more than faith and belief, but regardless of anything whatsoever he'll never admit it.
Folks, it's 100% pointless trying to debate with GldnRule, because just like other religious fundamentalists he will never, under any circumstances, admit that his perception could be inaccurate. Why? Because his feeling of self worth depends on him feeling that he's right, and feeling that anyone who does not agree with him must be wrong.
But he's human, and he has the right in a free society to not think normally and to reject normal thought from others.
The self deception practiced by GldnRule that his perception equals reality and truth says it all.
What he has is a "belief". He has nothing more than faith and belief, but regardless of anything whatsoever he'll never admit it.
Folks, it's 100% pointless trying to debate with GldnRule, because just like other religious fundamentalists he will never, under any circumstances, admit that his perception could be inaccurate. Why? Because his feeling of self worth depends on him feeling that he's right, and feeling that anyone who does not agree with him must be wrong.
But he's human, and he has the right in a free society to not think normally and to reject normal thought from others.
You are new here.
First...I have already said that any info/data/concept could be inaccurate. So, of course that includes anything I contemplate.
I have always said...nobody's belief is "wrong" to hold.
I believe many things that others don't...and others believe many things that I don't.
I take no issue with anything anyone else believes...I would never interrogate them about it, or get on their case.
My issue is those claiming my (or others) perception and belief is "wrong", "self-deception", "delusion", "Kool-Aid drinking", "moronic", "BS", and countless other insults and mocking.
I'm telling about my perception and Religious beliefs, on a forum titled Religion and Spirituality. Inquire about it respectfully, and/or read what I have to say...but keep the demand of answers and direct and indirect insults & mocking to yourself.
Only nasty, miserable, people bereft of couth and character do that.
The self deception practiced by GldnRule that his perception equals reality and truth says it all.
What he has is a "belief". He has nothing more than faith and belief, but regardless of anything whatsoever he'll never admit it.
Folks, it's 100% pointless trying to debate with GldnRule, because just like other religious fundamentalists he will never, under any circumstances, admit that his perception could be inaccurate. Why? Because his feeling of self worth depends on him feeling that he's right, and feeling that anyone who does not agree with him must be wrong.
But he's human, and he has the right in a free society to not think normally and to reject normal thought from others.
He won't stop, so we can't either. I won't hand him a victory.
Interesting in how the reply of GldnRule twists my word "wrong" in order to make him feel morally superior.
I did NOT say his beliefs are wrong to hold. In fact I said the OPPOSITE ...... "But he's human, and he has the right in a free society to not think normally and to reject normal thought from others". GldnRule doesn't comprehend that my "must be wrong" term means "must be inaccurate" ...... his reply twisted the obvious meaning of my phrase (my suspicion is that was likely not due to his lack of comprehension, but that he did it on purpose in an attempt to gain the high moral ground).
And of course his last sentence in his reply was utterly full of vindictive, personal abuse (a tactic he often uses on this forum).
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Good explanation, Thor. In earlier times, it would have been expressed as "the Father will call you" if you are listening.
