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Old 03-13-2023, 07:22 PM
 
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.................JWs and Mormons are even relegated to the Cults - but fortunately they don’t get much discussion there, and it’s simply not worth interacting with such biased and self-righteous Christians there anyway..............
Well, Jesus said his 'wheat' followers will be hated - Matthew 24:9; 10:22; Mark 13:13; Luke 21:17; 2nd Tim. 3:12.
Jesus said that the genuine ' wheat' would grow together with the fake ' weed/tares' til the Harvest Time.
- www.jw.org
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Old 03-13-2023, 07:35 PM
 
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Perhaps I should have qualified my post when I said (or meant to say, "Most Christians couldn't quote verbatim a single verse from the Bible") "Most American Christians couldn't......" since statistics show Americans score 38th among developed nations in test results. This deficit in academic skills seems to translate over to interest in acquiring Biblical skills among Americans too. Put plainly, Americans don't seem interested in educating themselves.
It's been my experience that, generally speaking, Christians know as much or as little about the Bible as they absorb and then 'parrot' from the man behind the pulpit of their local church. This is why, when debating certain controversial scriptures, so many of them are ill-prepared to participate in such discussions. A glaring example of this fact is most evident when the popular catch cry of "God says that homosexuality is an abomination" IS used, HAS been used and will CONTINUE to be used by professed Christians. Ask these folks WHERE, precisely, this particular text is found in the Bible and most of them would not have a clue.

How many of you would consider climbing into their plane if their knowledge of flying the plane was the equivalent of their knowledge of the Bible?
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Old 03-13-2023, 08:02 PM
 
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We're not in ancient time however...............
But we find 'ancient Babylon' in 'ancient time'.
As the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their religious ideas and practices and spread them world wide like a virus all over the religious world creating a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious ideas in the modern world.
Especially as un-faithful Jews began mixing with Greek philosophy un-scriptural ideas were being taught as being Scripture.
Perhaps I should say instead of a virus but say spread more like a: religious plague.
The secular blended with the sacred (Scripture) resulting in the many different but similar religious teachings.
So, only to compare what one is taught comparing it to the teachings of Jesus as found in Scripture.
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Old 03-13-2023, 08:07 PM
 
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Too bad that "blessed are the peacemakers" thing hasn't gone viral. Maybe someday?
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:18 PM
 
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Too bad that "blessed are the peacemakers" thing hasn't gone viral. Maybe someday?
But, "It's a God of WRATH", especially wrath directed at somebody else, is so much more exciting.
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Old 03-14-2023, 10:22 PM
 
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But, "It's a God of WRATH", especially wrath directed at somebody else, is so much more exciting.
LOL. That's the thing about wrath; a person can only call it down on themselves.
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Old 03-14-2023, 10:31 PM
 
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I was speaking to another member in another thread about Ray Comfort, Christian fruitcake extraordinaire and about how he spends his life going onto beaches and into parks to harass people, asking them if they have accepted Jesus and do they know they are going to hell if they haven't. Imagine the temerity of this man party-crashing people's good times with upsetting questions about do they believe in Jesus and telling them they are going to burn for eternity if they don't. It got me to realizing how mentally sick this man really is, spending his entire life trying to make other people miserable. Is it Ray Comfort's fault he does what he does? No. He is only following what the Bible commands him to do. The gospels command every Christian to go out into the world and preach the gospel to every living creature. Ray is just doing what he is told.

But is this normal behavior? Or is there something seriously wrong with the entire Christian paradigm that turns normal well-balanced happy people into vectors infected with the Christian contaminate who then go around infecting other people with their contagion? Watch the video below and see if you don't recognize how Ray Comfort is out there spreading his Jesus virus to otherwise normal happy individuals, exactly like a person infected with influenza spreads their virus to other otherwise healthy people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7CUszFtRIQ&t=13s

Are people watching Ray Comfort beginning to catch on how Christianity has been engineered to behave exactly like a virus that makes people sick and often kills them?

A virus has been designed by nature to carry just a single thread of double-helix DNA called a genome. This thread is pure information that is designed to do only one thing and that is to deliver instructions to its host cells how to duplicate itself endlessly once the virus is able to penetrate the cell host as shown in the diagram below





Once inside the cell the virus hijacks the cell's ability to replicate itself by splicing its DNA into the cell's DNA with instructions how to replicate the virus. Eventually the cell produces billions of viral genomes and swells so large it bursts, killing the cell and spreading billions of viral particles to infect other cells until eventually the host dies of the viral infection.




Christianity works on exactly the same mechanism in this way: the gospel is the virus shell. The double-helix inside the virus shell that infects humans is two Bible verses that intertwine like the double helix below:




John 3:16

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

and John 4:16

"Jesus answered, “I am the (only) way and truth and life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Christianity's viral double helix message spreads from human to human because one Christian splices John 3:16 and 4:16 into people's normal healthy carefree DNA exactly like viruses splice their DNA into normal healthy cells. This replicating device in Christianity has been encoded into the last lines of each gospel. It is

"Go into all the world a preach the gospel. All who accept it shall be saved and all who reject it shall be damned (to eternal fire in hell)." Mark 16:15


This verse was never found in the original manuscripts of Mark's gospel. It was inserted in there by devious churchmen centuries later who wanted Christianity spread around the known world at that time.


By ordering Christians to continue spreading the words of Jesus found in John 3:16 and 4:16 the church is thus able to insure its perpetual existence. Like a virus hijacking a normal cell, Christianity's insidious message that only Jesus can save you from hell is passed from person to person--infecting them, then hijacking and warping their normal thinking processes into becoming robot-like vectors for Jesus' message that only he can save them from hell.

It's easy to observe how once-ordinary psychologically well-balanced young adults slowly turn into slaves for Jesus just as a virus slowly turns ordinary cells into replicating devices for the virus. These infected individuals abandon their former ambitions to become doctors, scientists, educators, social workers, etc. occupations which benefit society and instead go into missionary work and Bible universities for the sole purpose of spreading Christianity's virulent message around the world "to every living creature" according to the command in the gospels.

The really sad thing about all this is these corrupt churchmen planned all this from the start as a means of perpetually insuring that fortunes in land and money would continuously pour into their coffers to finance their lavish extravagant lifestyles. Without the money, and the the power and prestige that accompanies that money Christianity would have died out long ago. The church sells its devious message that Jesus is the only way to heaven to dupes and rubes who fall under the church's guile that they are doing God's work to save souls. Nothing could be further from the truth. None of this is about saving souls--Christian leadership at the top couldn't care less about saving souls. It's all about getting more money to buy more mansions to live in, more luxurious automobiles to drive around in, more private jets to fly to more exotic locations for more lavish vacations under the pretense they are doing God's work spreading the gospel.

And thus the disease goes on and on bringing wealth to those at the top of the food chain and misery and despair to those at the bottom who often give their last pennies and then go unsheltered and hungry, unable to pay the rent and buy food for their children. Truly Christianity is a virus spreading its contagion throughout the world with the sole intention of infecting every last "living creature" on earth.

Is that the only Christian you wanna highlight to paint the entire picture of Christianity?

What about millions of Christians volunteering in humanitarian and Charitable work? Millions of Christians being exemplary and law abiding citizens who are a great benefit to the society in the fields of science, arts, math etc?

Thousands volunteering for animal well being?
What about Mother Teresa and her life long work? Was she an Atheist too?

Many running food pantries, helping the homeless?
Christian dominated first world countries who have opened their doors and have welcomed 100 and millions of refugees from the third world REGARDLESS of their faith affiliation?

What have YOU done to put Atheism in a better light? Opening threads to attack other faiths?

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Old 03-14-2023, 10:56 PM
 
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Well, Jesus said his 'wheat' followers will be hated - Matthew 24:9; 10:22; Mark 13:13; Luke 21:17; 2nd Tim. 3:12.
Jesus said that the genuine ' wheat' would grow together with the fake ' weed/tares' til the Harvest Time.
- www.jw.org
Yeah that’s exactly how Evangelical Christians are taught to think as well.
They are going to be “hated” on earth, but there will be big rewards on the other side for enduring and tolerating this behavior.
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Old 03-15-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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Yeah that’s exactly how Evangelical Christians are taught to think as well.
They are going to be “hated” on earth, but there will be big rewards on the other side for enduring and tolerating this behavior.
It's information control and an isolating tactic. Imagine how twisted a person would get if everything that contradicts their worldview was rejected and anyone who introduced that information was an enemy of the highest order.
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Old 03-15-2023, 01:42 PM
 
Location: NSW
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It's information control and an isolating tactic. Imagine how twisted a person would get if everything that contradicts their worldview was rejected and anyone who introduced that information was an enemy of the highest order.
Yeah there’s one Christian on another site, that always brings up how God will separate “the sheep from the goats”.
And that God knows exactly who His sheep are, and that only they can hear His voice and vice versa.
The inference here is that there are a hell of a lot more goats than sheep.
I don’t believe that this achieves anything, and I don’t believe that God or Jesus came down only to try and save such a small, elect group.
Isolationism obviously works well though for certain groups and individuals.

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