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Old 03-10-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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Lies and deception are the "virus" here. And distorting Christianity into something opposite is spreading that "virus".
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Old 03-10-2023, 07:04 PM
 
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Lies and deception are the "virus" here. And distorting Christianity into something opposite is spreading that "virus".
Do ya think the all-powerful god can handle it?
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Old 03-10-2023, 10:21 PM
 
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Lies and deception are the "virus" here. And distorting Christianity into something opposite is spreading that "virus".
Christianity is a very broad brush.
The likes of Ray Comfort, or others of similar beliefs, don’t represent all of Christianity either.
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Old 03-11-2023, 09:26 AM
 
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One can only imagine the blowback if one decided to start a thread suggesting that Mormonism, or Islam, or virtually any other religion or heck, even Atheism were like a "virus"
In suggesting that Christianity is a virus, Mormonism would be included as part of the virus. Like it or not, BF.
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Old 03-11-2023, 09:29 AM
 
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The fact that THAT is all you took from my statement speaks volumes.
Well, THAT part did kind of jump out at everybody. You could have used Hinduism, Buddhism or Sikhism as your second example and no one would have thought a thing about it.
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Old 03-11-2023, 09:59 AM
 
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For better or worse isn't all ideology "spread like a virus"? Doesn't the internet supercharge that? I saw some videos with Mo Gawdate who was a CEO at Google. His son died in 2014 and he honors his son by spreading, quite deliberately, the essence of his son (compassion) across the internet.
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Old 03-11-2023, 10:44 AM
 
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Well, THAT part did kind of jump out at everybody. You could have used Hinduism, Buddhism or Sikhism as your second example and no one would have thought a thing about it.
Wrong.
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Old 03-11-2023, 12:07 PM
 
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Christianity is a very broad brush.
The likes of Ray Comfort, or others of similar beliefs, don’t represent all of Christianity either.

Ray Comfort represents a small swath of questionable preachermen with fractured ideas of how Jesus Christ works. By far the predominant ideology pervading Christianity today--at least as far as what Christians will observe on their boob-tubes--is the prosperity gospel. Here is a partial list of the idiots promoting the prosperity gospel one can see if they turn on any evangelical tv channel:


Who are the Prosperity Gospel Preachers?
  1. John Avanzin
  2. Todd Bentley
  3. Junaita Bynum
  4. Charles Capps
  5. Morris Cerullo
  6. Kenneth Copeland
  7. Gloria Copeland
  8. Paul Crouch
  9. Creflo Dollar
  10. Jesse Duplantis
  11. John Hagee
  12. Kenneth Hagin
  13. Marilyn Hickey
  14. Benny Hinn
  15. TD Jakes
  16. Joyce Meyer
  17. Myles Munroe
  18. Joel Osteen
  19. Rob Parsely
  20. Frederick KC Prce
  21. Jerry Savelle
  22. Robert Tilton
  23. Paula White
https://www.pulse.com.gh/filla/top-1...-worth/lwj95ky


One has to ask, "Why is the prosperity gospel so dominant on the airwaves with roughly 9 out of 10 preachers fierce advocates of the doctrine?"


The answer is really quite simple: MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!





Televangelsts have learned from experience that getting on TV to preach the ordinary gospel of love your fellow man as yourself as found in the New Testament is a sure-fire road to basement-level ratings, hemorrhaging viewership and quick cancellation. Only the prosperity gospel--the idea that for every buck you give God he will throw $1000 back at you gets viewers in any appreciable numbers. It's the Christian version of playing the Powerball Lottery. And following this formula has proven a goldmine for the 25 televangelists listed above. Collectively the prosperity gospel has netted them close to 2 BILLION dollars in wealth--and netted exactly 00 dollars for the suckers they've fleeced. Take a look at some of these numbers:


Kenneth Copeland - $300 million

David Oyedepo - $150 million

Pat Robertson - $100 million

Benny Hinn - $60 million

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 million

Joel Osteen - $40 million

Creflo Dollar - $27 million

Jesse Duplantis - $20 million


Whatever you do, Christians don't ever try to argue with numbers like these that the prosperity gospel represents a tiny segment of Christianity. The market for attracting Christians by preaching prosperity is gigantic. Why doesn't God put a stop to this bastardization of his Word???

Why, it would violate the free will of these hucksters to con Christians out of their children's dinner money of course. Can't have God overstepping these televangelists' free will to create havoc in Christianity and become multi-millionaires in the process, now can we?

Such is the cracked, confused, totally bizarro world that Christians inhabit.

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Old 03-11-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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For better or worse isn't all ideology "spread like a virus"? Doesn't the internet supercharge that? I saw some videos with Mo Gawdate who was a CEO at Google. His son died in 2014 and he honors his son by spreading, quite deliberately, the essence of his son (compassion) across the internet.
Not just ideology, but anything having to do with pop culture. The term “viral video” didn’t emerge by accident.

That said, Christianity is more overtly viral in origin and spread than many other religions and similar cultural phenomena. As I recently posted in a different thread:
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That’s very much by design and was one of the key points that diverged Christians from their Jewish theological heritage. After all, if your goal is strength in numbers (and that’s an extremely sound strategy when your goal is to gain power and influence), you can’t require people immerse themselves in Christian doctrine over an extended timeframe. You certainly don’t try to dissuade potential converts three times before you allow them to even begin the conversion process. You need adherents now, and simply requiring that people verbalize that they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, and perhaps also sprinkling or immersing yourself in water, is a quick and easy way to get them.
And the above quote doesn’t even delve into the spread-the-gospel requirements (read: recruiting warm bodies wherever and whenever you can get them), which remain essential to many Christian faiths.

Really, the only major Christian sect I can think of that was destined to fail was Shakerism. Prohibiting copulation of any kind will do that. They were able to hang on for a while by sponsoring orphanages, but then the orphanage system transitioned to the foster care model in the United States by the mid-twentieth century. Per Wikipedia, only three Shakers are alive as of 2021.

They make great furniture, from what I hear. On the other hand, so do the Amish.
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Old 03-11-2023, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Wrong.
I was just objecting to his choice to not include Mormonism in Christianity. He was saying that Braeburn applies aren't real apples, and they are. I wasn't suggesting that his statement was an accurate one. I don't believe it was.
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