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Old 04-18-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Oh, I have lots of clues, having spent twenty years reading and trying to follow the bible...You have no facts...None at all.
Just because you couldn't follow the bible does not make it untrue. Sorry, not trying to sound unconcerned, but I have come to relize that everyone is not going to believe in God because everyone does not have faith and some don't even want to come to Him. Which is fine, you choose to not believe in God, but there are some that do.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Just because you couldn't follow the bible does not make it untrue. Sorry, not trying to sound unconcerned, but I have come to relize that everyone is not going to believe in God because everyone does not have faith and some don't even want to come to Him. Which is fine, you choose to not believe in God, but there are some that do.
I couldn't believe the bible simply because I was born with a curious mind and the ability to reason logically....There is very little logic in the bible, and I cannot believe something to be true just because it is written down. I was not about to sell my questioning mind and reality down the river in order to blindly believe the impossible events described in the bible, so I researched the origins of said book.
My research was what closed the door on my Christianity...I've never looked back, and every thing I've read or experienced since has only confirmed that I made the right choice. The bible is not what you think it is.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I couldn't believe the bible simply because I was born with a curious mind and the ability to reason logically....There is very little logic in the bible, and I cannot believe something to be true just because it is written down. I was not about to sell my questioning mind and reality down the river in order to blindly believe the impossible events described in the bible, so I researched the origins of said book.
My research was what closed the door on my Christianity...I've never looked back, and every thing I've read or experienced since has only confirmed that I made the right choice. The bible is not what you think it is.
Sorry to hear that, the bible is what I think that it is and I never looked back. I didn't have the experience that you had, I found out about God before I even started reading the bible. He came and found me and I have been with Him every since.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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I couldn't believe the bible simply because I was born with a curious mind and the ability to reason logically....There is very little logic (for me to find) in the bible, and I cannot believe something to be true just because it is written down. I was not about to sell my questioning mind and reality down the river in order to blindly believe the (thus to me) impossible events described in the bible, so I researched the origins of said book.
My research was what closed the door on my Christianity...I've never looked back, and every thing I've read or experienced since has only confirmed that I made the right choice. The bible is not what you think it is.

forgive me thinking my understanding into your post, sanspeur, only this way i can respond to the op by asking, to what constructive thought was this thread supposed to lead?

btw. the bible does make sense to me again, i do not need to discredit it every time a scientific, political and/or economic issue is (to be) negotiated.


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Old 04-18-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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forgive me thinking my understanding into your post, ....
....btw. the bible does make sense to me again, i do not need to discredit it every time a scientific, political and/or economic issue is (to be) negotiated.

'Thinking my understanding' : was that a true Gedanken of regards to the idea of thoughts existing in some abstract encapacitated realm for the god considered in the definitions we have been accustomed to from and as of the Bible; or is it an honest failing of idealism for the problem at hand that you believe it now that you can imagine that understanding for the moment? I thought the thread had an invested reality for, yes, a gedanken type of consideration, imagined God if you like, about how we could metaphysically think of God showing Himself against our whining down here on Earth. Such has been done by people of sincere faith throughout History, and that just makes the distaste for insincere believers, hypocritical believers, and immoral suffering believers (like you and I, I think) of the alternative anschuung type God, people misguided or something, not so nice.

Nice people don't happen by religion; do they? Gedanken is not the nice result, but I've given up that there is something intuitively pleasing on the whole site's concern for doubting morals because of God.

Another question: does the bible explain doubt for morals coming from God? Anywhere; except for Jonah in the Whale, because Jonah is just stubborn for sharing...... I add, as a personality of kind.
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Old 04-18-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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thanks for at least one constructive response in a long while ... and i do not mean to be offensive to anyone!

mondofacto dictionary - definition of Gedanken

should there be such a difference, such a gap .... and since when would it seem to me as (maybe already) left unbridged..

seems we enjoy leaving each other in every possible kind of haziness (my fave expression ) - it's good for business and competition.

bad habit, i guess.
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Old 04-18-2009, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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forgive me thinking my understanding into your post, sanspeur, only this way i can respond to the op by asking, to what constructive thought was this thread supposed to lead?

btw. the bible does make sense to me again, i do not need to discredit it every time a scientific, political and/or economic issue is (to be) negotiated.


What is your problem? I was addressing shawn.
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Old 04-18-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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What is your problem? I was addressing shawn.
sure, got it. never again!

Last edited by effie g-tad; 04-18-2009 at 05:00 PM.. Reason: knowing the attitude:"you give it, you don't take it."
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
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What's there to disprove?
millions and millions of years, instead of a few thousand
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Old 04-18-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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millions and millions of years, instead of a few thousand
millions of what, I don't see facts
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