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While I do not necessarily agree with the ethics of it in all but the most extreme circumstances, his practice was legal. None were in a position to condemn a legal act unless that law were someday changed.
Anyone can photoshop. My point being, I don't know if this ad is accurate, changed or completely fabricated.
Yeah, because I have enough time with two kids to care for to do that. If I'm going to photoshop an ad, I better be getting paid for it. You could've just clicked the link underneath the ad I posted that would take you to the directory where his ad, and others like it, were posted.
Either way, quoting from Dr Tiller's website, courtesy of google cache, with links (emphasis is mine):
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Thousands of patients throughout the world have received quality reproductive health care services at our clinic.
George Tiller MD - Wichita, Kansas - Late Abortion Care (http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:http://www.drtiller.com/facil.html - broken link)
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At Women's Health Care Services, we specialize in "late" abortion care. We are able to perform elective abortions to the time in the pregnancy when the fetus is viable. Viability is not a set point in time. Viability is determined by the attending physician and is based on sonogram results, physical examination and last menstrual period date (if known). Our telephone counselors will ask you a number of medical questions to determine if you are eligible for an elective abortion.
Abortion Care - George Tiller MD - Wichita, Kansas (http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:http://www.drtiller.com/elect.html - broken link)
The statement that "viability is not a set point in time" is incorrect, by the way. 24 weeks is considered the "age of viability", with some cases of babies surviving (and thriving) after being born as early as 22 weeks gestation.
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Dr. George Tiller has provided abortion services since 1973.
Although Dr. Tiller was a Family practitioner (and possibly a gynecologist), his website makes no mention of performing any other medical services besides abortions. Even the page designated for his staff ( George Tiller MD - Wichita, Kansas - Late Abortion Care (http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:http://www.drtiller.com/staff.html - broken link) ) revolves around abortion procedures.
Terminating pregnancies for any reason, elective or otherwise, at any gestation was this man's forte and he was very open about it being so.
Should he have been killed for that? Again, certainly not, but let's not try to sugar coat his career path because of his untimely death.
When a right-wing Christian vigilante kills, millions of fingers pull the trigger.
When a left-wing Muslim vigilante kills, he kills alone.
These are the instantly ossifying narratives in the Sunday shooting death of Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller versus the Monday shootings of two Arkansas military recruiters.
Tiller’s suspected murderer, Scott Roeder, was white, Christian, anti-government, and anti-abortion. The gunman in the military recruiting center attack, Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, was black, a Muslim convert, anti-military, and anti-American. Both crimes are despicable, cowardly acts of domestic terrorism. But the disparate treatment of the two brutal cases by both the White House and the media is striking.
President Obama issued a statement condemning “heinous acts of violence” within hours of Tiller’s death. The Justice Department issued its own statement and sent federal marshals to protect abortion clinics. News anchors and headline writers abandoned all qualms about labeling the gunman a terrorist. An almost gleeful excess of mainstream commentary poured forth on the climates of hate and fear created by conservative talk radio, blogs, and Fox News for reporting Tiller’s activities.
By contrast, President Obama was silent about the military recruiter attacks that left 24-year-old Private William Long dead and 18-year-old Private Quinton Ezeagwula gravely wounded. On Tuesday afternoon – more than 24 hours after the attack on the military recruiting center in Little Rock – President Obama held a press conference to announce his pick for Army Secretary. It would have been exactly the right moment to express condolences for the families of the targeted Army recruiters and to condemn heinous acts of violence against our troops.
But President Obama said nothing.
The Justice Department was mum.
And so were the legions of finger-pointing pundits happily convicting the pro-life movement and every right-leaning writer on the planet of contributing to the murder of George Tiller.
Obama’s omission, it should be noted, comes just a few weeks after he failed to mention the Bronx jihadi plot to bomb synagogues and a National Guard airbase during his speech on homeland security.
Why the silence?
Politically and religiously-motivated violence, it seems, is only worth lamenting when it demonizes opponents. Which also helps explain why the phrase “lone shooter” is ubiquitous in media coverage of jihadi shooters gone wild – think convicted Jeep Jihadi Mohammed Taheri-Azar at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill or Israel-bashing gunman Naveed Haq who targeted a Seattle Jewish charity or Los Angeles International Airport shooter Hesham Hedayet who opened fire at the El Al Israeli airline ticket counter– but not in cases involving rare acts of anti-abortion violence.
Even Jeffrey Goldberg of the left-leaning Atlantic magazine noticed the double standards. He called attention to a National Public Radio report on the military recruiter attack that failed to mention the religion and anti-military animus of the suspect. Wrote Goldberg:
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“Why not tell people what is actually happening in the world? We saw this a couple of weeks ago, when the press only gingerly acknowledged that the malevolent though incompetent suspects in the synagogue bombing-conspiracy case in New York were converts to Islam. How is the public served by this kind of silence? The extremist Christian beliefs of George Tiller’s alleged murderer are certainly relevant to that case, and no one in my profession is hesitant to discuss them. Why the hesitancy to talk about the motivations of the man who allegedly killed Pvt. William Long?”
The truth is that the “climate of hate” doesn’t have just one hemisphere. But you won’t hear the Council on American Islamic Relations acknowledging the national security risks of jihadi infiltrators who despise our military and have plotted against our troops from within the ranks – including convicted fragging killer Hasan Akbar and terror plotters Ali Mohamed, Jeffrey Battle, and Semi Osman.
You won’t hear about the escalating war on military recruitment centers on the op-ed pages of the New York Times – from vandalism to obstruction to Molotov cocktail attacks on campus stations across the country; to the shutdown of a Pittsburgh military recruitment office by zealots holding signs that read “Recruiters are Child Predators;” to the prolonged harassment campaign against the Marine recruiting center in Berkeley, where Code Pink protesters called America soldiers assassins; to the bomb blast at the Times Square recruiting center last March.
And you’ll certainly hear little about the most recent left-wing calls to violence by a Playboy magazine writer who published a vulgar list of conservative female writers and commentators he said he’d like to rape (the obscene slang word he used is not printable). The list was hyped by the magazine’s publicity team and light-heartedly promoted by mainstream publications such as Politico.com (founded by Washington Post reporters).
Is it too much to ask the media cartographers in charge of mapping the “climate of hate” to do their jobs with both eyes open?
Tiller offered FREE abortions to "celebrate" the 30 anniversary of Roe v Wade. He was very blantant on what he could do under the law and no one could stop him. Did this rile the killer---maybe it did. Most abortionists are very quiet about the whole thing.
I think Tiller got cocky since he had the KS governor (Kathleen Sebelius, our new Health and Human Services Secretary) in his pocket.
Yeah, because I have enough time with two kids to care for to do that. If I'm going to photoshop an ad, I better be getting paid for it. You could've just clicked the link underneath the ad I posted that would take you to the directory where his ad, and others like it, were posted.
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Eeeeeaassy there. I never said, nor implied, that YOU had done that. Roll your eyes all you like, but know that I honestly never suspected you had. I just wanted to point out that much of what is online, especially concerning such a high-profile, high-intensity subject, could be garbage.
Eeeeeaassy there. I never said, nor implied, that YOU had done that. Roll your eyes all you like, but know that I honestly never suspected you had. I just wanted to point out that much of what is online, especially concerning such a high-profile, high-intensity subject, could be garbage.
The website that advertisement came from has been online since 1996 and the domain is registered to AB Clinics On-Line. The domain name registration is set to be up for renewal in 2014. It costs $1600 a year to place an advertisement on that website. Somehow, I doubt some photoshop junkie kid is going to cough up $1600 to place a fake ad for a dead abortion performing doctor just for giggles.
The website that advertisement came from has been online since 1996 and the domain is registered to AB Clinics On-Line. The domain name registration is set to be up for renewal in 2014. It costs $1600 a year to place an advertisement on that website. Somehow, I doubt some photoshop junkie kid is going to cough up $1600 to place a fake ad for a dead abortion performing doctor just for giggles.
Wow. I believe you! I must have been very, very vague. Let me try one more time- I was simply saying that material such as the banner that was pasted into a previous post could have been altered in the wake of the murder.
Not sure where the idea of someone placing a false ad or hosting a site came into play.
Now, let's move on.
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If I'm going to photoshop an ad, I better be getting paid for it. You could've just clicked the link underneath the ad I posted that would take you to the directory where his ad, and others like it, were posted.