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Old 02-17-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Freakville
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The bible is full of stories. Some of them are quite scary for children. The Christians have been cherry picking verses from this book to make their points about one thing or another for years.
As have non-Christians.
So what?
Is there a coherent point to your statement (don't want to cherry pick any words)?
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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Yeah! Interesting isn't ...that this god came to Earth in human form to spread his message yet wrote not one single word of it himself. In his infinite wisdom, he thought it better to leave that to fallible humans.
Why should he? We did a wonderful job distorting the Bible.

One could argue that Jesus leaves the best message if he says nothing, and lets the followers decide for themselves.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:22 PM
 
Location: US
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The thread about the book of Jesus got me to thinking about a question that has never even occurred to me before. I think it would be likely that Jesus like most of the population at the time would have been unable to read or write although I've never heard anyone express an opinion on it. Of course if he was able to turn water into wine I wouldn't think that it would have been difficult at all to do so (obligatory sarcastic remark).
When you stop and think about it the Bible only contains written accounts of the life of Jesus that were written long after his death. Because Christians believe that the Bible is God's word wouldn't it have made alot more sense to have Jesus contribute a certain portion of the Bible in his own words? That would have ended so much of the speculation and unanswered questions regarding his life and his message. Has anyone ever heard of anything whatsoever that was ever written and directly attributed to Jesus?
Yea, the Masons have them...
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: US
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The non-canonical Infancy Gospel of Thomas is the one where the five year old Jesus kills another boy for bumping in to him among other bratty mischief. This is a second century work that no one takes seriously as anything that really happened.

Infancy Gospel of Thomas, First Greek Form (Roberts-Donaldson translation)

For some insane reason C-D refuses to handle inks properly. Parsing and title retrieval work but are not interpreted in the post. So copy/paste the above link into a browser window to see the Infancy Gospel of Thomas.
The wording is very britishy....
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: US
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I did, just like I have many hundreds of times. All that came out in previews was the text of the inserted link, not its interpreted result. E.g., the Preview result would look like [ url=" etc instead of a highlighted link. (Intentional space before url=.) I tried putting in just the url. It got parsed as [ url] etc. but that is also what showed up in Preview. I had to unclick automatic parse and automatic retrieve to get a plain vanilla url.

Google

Now it is working.
I cut & paste links all the time...
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: North America
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No, because he was likely illiterate. Or at best, functionally literate.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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No, because he was likely illiterate. Or at best, functionally literate.
Except for reading from and quoting the torah, right?
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Old 02-19-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I think coming back from the dead is impressive enough...
More impressive was all those zombies, "seen by many" that walked around Jerusalem.

You DO know about that, right?
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Inland California Desert
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The first 2 verses of the Bible book of Revelation say:

"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him,
to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

"And he [Jesus] sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John,
who bore witness to the word God gave and to the witness Jesus Christ gave, yes, to all the things he saw."


Do the owner and director or manager of a business directly pen messages to their various employees . . . ?

Or, do they rather direct secretaries to do that for them . . . ?
Do they write instruction manuals for their employees, or do they have others write those for them . . . ?

It is very rare that the owner or manager of a business personally writes anything to the employees of that business.

Likewise . . . faithful Angels are used as messengers of God, and faithful Christians have been used as secretaries, to write down God's Word for the benefit of the rest of mankind.

There is nothing unusual or lacking in God's choice to provide God's Word to mankind:

“Prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will,
but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.” (2 Peter 1:21)

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial . . .
for teaching,for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness." (2 Ti. 3:16)


How are a company's employees likely to be viewed if they complain that their employer does not write things down personally for them . . . ? That would be a ridiculous thing to expect from one's employer. It is likewise ridiculous to expect Jesus to personally write anything down for mankind. He is second only to his Father in heaven. He has, however, personally sent messages to his followers on earth. For example the book of Revelation; when he stopped Saul from continuing to persecute the Christians, and directing him to get educated by them, instead.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY.
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And on another note, why is Jesus considered to be white? Why is he always painted as a white man, blue eyes, blonde, tall, or acted by whites in movies?

Some say his mother was raped by a white man(a Roman soldier), others say Europeans needed to see themselves in their God.
The simple fact is the New Testament is 2nd hand hearsay evidence written 60 years after the events occurred, inadmissable by any law or court standards as historical facts.
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