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Old 11-11-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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And this illustrates that people who live in the Oakland Hills could live anywhere they want but choose the area because it is very green, has tremendous views, has a much more desirable housing stock with yards and lots and lots of trees. They also prefer the suburban nature of the hills and one major advantage is they are still close to it all, but don't have to sacrifice house size, privacy and safety in the process.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:26 PM
 
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The term "high class" is very subjective. We can try to use objective measures like average household income or proximity to crime to attempt to define what high class is, but not everyone will agree on these ways to measure it. It would be best for the original poster to see the neighborhoods for themselves and see what they consider is "high class."
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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And as far as Piedmont, well, it rolls with the best of them:

Average Household Income, 2009
Piedmont Estates(Pop 4,743), Piedmont, CA $355,862
Bel Air(Pop 7,986), Los Angeles, CA $306,958
Star, Palm & Hibiscus Island(Pop 759), Miami Beach, FL $280,813
Tribeca(Pop 15,429), New York, NY $261,206
Holmby Hills(Pop 2,985), Los Angeles, CA $260,378
Presidio Heights(Pop 3,981), San Francisco, CA $252,883
La Jolla Shores(Pop 3,519), La Jolla, CA $215,338
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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The term "high class" is very subjective. We can try to use objective measures like average household income or proximity to crime to attempt to define what high class is, but not everyone will agree on these ways to measure it. It would be best for the original poster to see the neighborhoods for themselves and see what they consider is "high class."
Very true...

I think it was Queen Elizabeth who said class knows no boundary or station in life... it is someone one either has or not...

Economic Class is easily defined by Income, Assets, Standard of Living.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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And this illustrates that people who live in the Oakland Hills could live anywhere they want but choose the area because it is very green, has tremendous views, has a much more desirable housing stock with yards and lots and lots of trees. They also prefer the suburban nature of the hills and one major advantage is they are still close to it all, but don't have to sacrifice house size, privacy and safety in the process.
How about those views...

Many Oakland residents enjoy panoramic vistas encompassing 7 bridges, SF and Oakland Skylines and SF Residents get to look at us: D
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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Views from the Oakland Hills




http://www.edab.org/images/living/fullsize/OaklandDowntownHillsClose.jpg (broken link)


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Old 11-13-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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How are you defining social classes? Is it based on assets or behavior?
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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nob hill has "old money" and is a lot closer to crime than rockridge.nob hill is blocks from the tenderloin which is crackhead, whackjob and ho central of san francisco. this year mentally disturbed people have walked up the hill from the tenderloin and killed people in nob hill.
You can't compare Nob Hill to Rockridge. It's an actual urban high class community where Rockridge is more burbs. I've lived in Manhattan, and people get robbed and killed there too. That might be a surprise, but one day when you venture outside of the Bay Area, you'll learn more about urban living.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:19 AM
 
Location: ABQ
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You can't compare Nob Hill to Rockridge. It's an actual urban high class community where Rockridge is more burbs. I've lived in Manhattan, and people get robbed and killed there too. That might be a surprise, but one day when you venture outside of the Bay Area, you'll learn more about urban living.
Yawn.

You said...

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Rockridge is rather small, and still in close proximity to too much crime to be considered high class. .
That's why he compared it to Nob Hill, since Nob Hill is in much closer to proximity to crime (and bad crime, at that). So, are you abandoning that thesis now? Sure sounds like it.
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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That's why he compared it to Nob Hill, since Nob Hill is in much closer to proximity to crime (and bad crime, at that). So, are you abandoning that thesis now? Sure sounds like it.
In the context of what type of neighborhoods they are. I explained it here:

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You can't compare Nob Hill to Rockridge. It's an actual urban high class community where Rockridge is more burbs.
Thanks for reading.
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