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Old 11-08-2010, 03:10 AM
 
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Please help me (and thank you) : I'm interested in housing in Oakland for my masters research for cultural anthropology from Leiden (close to Amsterdam, Netherlands). I'm trying to find a class of housing in Oakland that houses people who have money to spend on separating themselves from anything they may see as 'bad' (streetcrime/violence, or people associated with these 'bad things'). I've been looking for gated communities, where walls and security employees seal off the neighborhood, but I can't find them in Oakland. Does Oakland have these kinds of gated communities? If no, what do you think would be the next form of housing that ranks highest in effort (within Oakland's borders) to keep out 'bad things' by spending money (perhaps security, or other solutions)? And where is this neighborhood? If you are willing to help me a bit more: who do you think lives there; what are the people like?

Thanks again
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:25 AM
 
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There are no gated communities in Oakland. If you want to examine a gated communitiy, try Black Hawk. It's over the hill.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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First of all, there are plenty of very safe, upscale neighborhoods in Oakland without gated communities.

The one gated community in Oakland that I know of is a tiny development of 5-10 homes called LaSalle Estates, located in Piedmont Pines, which is a very upscale and safe area, its more like a Cul-de-sac with a securit gate(LOL), there is 1 home there currently for sale there:

$2,100,000

http://p.rdcpix.com/v03/l3fb8a942-c0o.jpg

the view...

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5616 Lane Salle Avenue Oakland CA Home for Sale - Real Estate Listings - MLS #40464336 - Realtor.comĀ®

I would also recommend looking at Hiller Highlands if you want to feel removed but still in the middle of everything-and that area is made up of more manageable townhouses so you wont be spending all your time maintaining the house. The views up there are the best probably in all of Northern California!

Well, good luck!
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:24 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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In Oakland, most people who want to avoid street crime put geographic barriers between themselves and the 'undesirables.' That usually means hills and open space, sometimes freeways too.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:00 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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"High class" in Oakland is when most of the words in your tattoos are spelled right!
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Please help me (and thank you) : I'm interested in housing in Oakland for my masters research for cultural anthropology from Leiden (close to Amsterdam, Netherlands). I'm trying to find a class of housing in Oakland that houses people who have money to spend on separating themselves from anything they may see as 'bad' (streetcrime/violence, or people associated with these 'bad things'). I've been looking for gated communities, where walls and security employees seal off the neighborhood, but I can't find them in Oakland. Does Oakland have these kinds of gated communities? If no, what do you think would be the next form of housing that ranks highest in effort (within Oakland's borders) to keep out 'bad things' by spending money (perhaps security, or other solutions)? And where is this neighborhood? If you are willing to help me a bit more: who do you think lives there; what are the people like?

Thanks again
There are plenty of private homes in the hills that have individual private gates. Gated communities are less frequent in the Bay Area, especially in the inner ring suburbs. Gated communities are a fairly new construct and the build of the newer construction here is infill and not completely new. Most of the upscale homes were built in the early 20th century.

You can find a few left over neighborhood gates though. They never shut and are basically decoration. These are around Piedmont and Montclair. Well the ones I've seen at list.

On the other hand most of the condo's in town are in secure midrise and high rise buildings. There are quite a few upscale highrises near the lake and downtown with doormen as well.

There typically isn't an "oasis" surround by "bad parts" of town in Oakland. Upper class neighborhoods are mostly surrounded by similar ones on all sides. And it as you go up, the income level required to live there increases. So lower class neighborhoods tend to border middle class ones, and middle class ones neighbor upper class ones. Or there is recent development in the hills with newer homes, and these areas were well established as upper class areas.

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Old 11-08-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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"High class" in Oakland is when most of the words in your tattoos are spelled right!
Feel free to ignore Curmudgeon. It is likely he has never been to Oakland.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Feel free to ignore Curmudgeon. It is likely he has never been to Oakland.
Au contraire, Jade. Don't let my present location fool you. Native Californian here who spent almost 20 years living in Sacramento and went to Oakland on a number of occasions.

I should have concluded my remark with a since it was made in jest. I know full well there's far more to Oakland than bad governance and riots. They just get the news.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: South Korea
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Supposedly there's some kind of gated complex in the Tenderloin in San Francisco...not sure what it's like though, I just remember reading something about it in the paper several years ago.


Oakland is an older city in the Bay Area so you're not going to see new features like gated communities. If people don't like the crime in Oakland they usually move to further out suburbs where the housing is newer and they might have gated communities.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Au contraire, Jade. Don't let my present location fool you. Native Californian here who spent almost 20 years living in Sacramento and went to Oakland on a number of occasions.

I should have concluded my remark with a since it was made in jest. I know full well there's far more to Oakland than bad governance and riots. They just get the news.
OK, I'll forgive you. I know the local papers like to over-staff their Oakland Bureaus.
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