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Old 08-14-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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US Ally Ukraine Helped North Korea Build their ICBM

The US thought they had a real ally in Ukraine after helping the Neo Nazis thugs to topple their legitmate government in 2014. That all is coming back to haunt the CIA as new evidence uncovered shows it is a Ukranian manufacture that has helped Norh Korea achiev success to attack the US main land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOhQs4_RxoI
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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While the news media and U.S. intelligence community continues to focus on North Korea’s missile capabilities, one expert warned on Sunday that we are ignoring two North Korean satellites currently orbiting the U.S. that could be used to carry out a devastating electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack.
Such a “surprise” attack could paralyze the U.S. electrical grid and critical civilian infrastructure, resulting in the death of large numbers of Americans.






KMS-4 Satellite details 2016-009A NORAD 41332


Track KMS-4 now!
10-day predictions
NORAD ID: 41332
Int'l Code: 2016-009A
Perigee: 463.3 km
Apogee: 498.1 km
Inclination: 97.5 °
Period: 94.1 minutes
Semi major axis: 6851 km
RCS: Unknown
Launch date: February 7, 2016
Source: North Korea (NKOR)
Launch site: Yunsong, DPRK (YUN)
KMS-4 (Kwangmyongsong-4 meaning Bright Star-4 or Lodestar-4 in Korean) is an earth observation satellite launched by North Korea on 7 February 2016. The launch happened after North Korea conducted a nuclear test on 6 January and as the United Nations Security Council is deciding on sanctions to be placed on the country following the nuclear test. The launch was also timed to celebrate the 74th birthday of late leader Kim Jong-il on February 16. Details on the Kwangmyongsong-4 satellite are not available, though it can be assumed that its design is similar to KMS-3-2 which carried an Earth observation camera and a 470MHz UHF radio payload to transmit patriotic songs. KMS-3-2 was reported to be three-axis stabilized and its cameras were to be used to collect still imagery as well as videos, to be downlinked via X-Band. The satellite is expected to operate for at least four years and fulfill an Earth Observation task."

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Old 08-15-2017, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Yes, and while you're distracted by stupid North Korea - a small, poor nation that is no threat to us - Charlotteville and other events possibly leading to civil war in this country - a real threat to us - is off your radar screen. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

Part of becoming a real survivalist or prepper is the ability to discern what the real threats are, and which are just "noise". You've obviously failed in this aspect of it. A little less sensationalism, a little less crying Wolf, a little more observation and critical thought, will take you where you want to go.
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Old 08-15-2017, 06:04 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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During a talk on surviving a nuclear attack, professor Iwrin Redlener, US specialist on disaster preparedness, said:
Some pretty stupid advice given by this so called expert.

Cover windows with plastic and duct tape? That will stop alpha radiation. BFD. It's the beta & gamma that're injurious. Gamma needs 3 ft of concrete to stop it.

Hazmat suits? Who takes them off you? Where do you put them once they're off?

I read the extensive report summarizing the medical problems of survivors of the Japanese experience following WWII. I did that 40 yrs ago, so forgive me if my memory is a little foggy, but to summarize:

Depending on the size of the bomb, there are concentric circles around ground zero. Those exposed to the blast in the first zone are vaporized. Their troubles are over. In the next zone, burns & percussion injuries are so extensive, death is unavoidable and quick. In the third zone, burns are less extensive and survivable depending on availability of adequate medical supplies & care. Those who survive that and those in the next zone also suffer radiation damage to bone marrow that will show itself over the next several months-- progressive anemia and leukopenia. Infectious diseases become difficult to survive and the anemia may tax those with heart or lung issues. Survival depends on availability of medical care.

Long term damage was amazingly rare: leukemia and thyroid cancer occurred in excessive but not overwhelming numbers. Sterility occurred in excess numbers but very few new genetic problems were passed on to the next generation.

For those surviving an attack and not severely injured, avoiding further radiation is the main problem. Fallout of course blows down-wind and can contaminate surfaces including open water and food sources.
Radiation damage is cummulative-- exposure to 10 rads in one day is the same as exposure to 1 rad a day for 10 days.

I was a kid in the 50s/early 60s when we were open air testing multiple large bombs in Nevada. Effects of fallout drifting across the continent were a concern. We were told in Chicago not to eat the snow. I didn't heed the advice. See how fast I type with six fingers?
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Long term damage was amazingly rare: leukemia and thyroid cancer occurred in excessive but not overwhelming numbers. Sterility occurred in excess numbers but very few new genetic problems were passed on to the next generation.

For those surviving an attack and not severely injured, avoiding further radiation is the main problem. Fallout of course blows down-wind and can contaminate surfaces including open water and food sources.
Radiation damage is cummulative-- exposure to 10 rads in one day is the same as exposure to 1 rad a day for 10 days.

I was a kid in the 50s/early 60s when we were open air testing multiple large bombs in Nevada. Effects of fallout drifting across the continent were a concern. We were told in Chicago not to eat the snow. I didn't heed the advice. See how fast I type with six fingers?
Long term damage and fallout from the two bombs we dropped on Japan was minimal because the bombs were detonated more than 1000 feet (I forget the exact height) in the air, preventing the fireball from touching the ground (so, actually, almost nothing was "vaporized," most of it was, instead, smashed to bits and blown away). We used air burst for a different reason (to maximize the area destroyed by physical blast effects), but the side effect was less fallout. The higher the bomb detonates, the less fallout it creates.
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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While the news media and U.S. intelligence community continues to focus on North Korea’s missile capabilities, one expert warned on Sunday that we are ignoring two North Korean satellites currently orbiting the U.S. that could be used to carry out a devastating electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack.
Such a “surprise” attack could paralyze the U.S. electrical grid and critical civilian infrastructure, resulting in the death of large numbers of Americans.
The NK satellites have long been deemed to be space junk by experts, orbiting without direction or course. They are not functional.

Dude, how many posts do you have in this one thread? You really need to calm down and smoke some herb or something, and cease with the hysterics. You are just posting nonsense. No one needs to prepare for a nuclear attack at this time.
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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What Will Happen September 23, 2017 - World War 3, When It Begins - Steve Quayle & Tom Horn 2017



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDtzrScaNck
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Old 08-15-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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The NK satellites have long been deemed to be space junk by experts, orbiting without direction or course. They are not functional.

Dude, how many posts do you have in this one thread? You really need to calm down and smoke some herb or something, and cease with the hysterics. You are just posting nonsense. No one needs to prepare for a nuclear attack at this time.

NK Satellites at: http://www.n2yo.com/?s=41332

North Korea - Possible EMP threat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t67WVDbIdvo
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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The NK satellites have long been deemed to be space junk by experts, orbiting without direction or course. They are not functional.

Dude, how many posts do you have in this one thread? You really need to calm down and smoke some herb or something, and cease with the hysterics. You are just posting nonsense. No one needs to prepare for a nuclear attack at this time.
I suspect "Dude" is female. No solid evidence, just a gut feeling ...
Rand Corp put out an interesting paper:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html

When I get to page two of their paper, I kinda see her...
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Some pretty stupid advice given by this so called expert.

Cover windows with plastic and duct tape? That will stop alpha radiation. BFD. It's the beta & gamma that're injurious. Gamma needs 3 ft of concrete to stop it.

Hazmat suits? Who takes them off you? Where do you put them once they're off?

I read the extensive report summarizing the medical problems of survivors of the Japanese experience following WWII. I did that 40 yrs ago, so forgive me if my memory is a little foggy, but to summarize:

Depending on the size of the bomb, there are concentric circles around ground zero. Those exposed to the blast in the first zone are vaporized. Their troubles are over. In the next zone, burns & percussion injuries are so extensive, death is unavoidable and quick. In the third zone, burns are less extensive and survivable depending on availability of adequate medical supplies & care. Those who survive that and those in the next zone also suffer radiation damage to bone marrow that will show itself over the next several months-- progressive anemia and leukopenia. Infectious diseases become difficult to survive and the anemia may tax those with heart or lung issues. Survival depends on availability of medical care.

Long term damage was amazingly rare: leukemia and thyroid cancer occurred in excessive but not overwhelming numbers. Sterility occurred in excess numbers but very few new genetic problems were passed on to the next generation.

For those surviving an attack and not severely injured, avoiding further radiation is the main problem. Fallout of course blows down-wind and can contaminate surfaces including open water and food sources.
Radiation damage is cummulative-- exposure to 10 rads in one day is the same as exposure to 1 rad a day for 10 days.

I was a kid in the 50s/early 60s when we were open air testing multiple large bombs in Nevada. Effects of fallout drifting across the continent were a concern. We were told in Chicago not to eat the snow. I didn't heed the advice. See how fast I type with six fingers?

Watch out for yellow snow.
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