02-27-2010, 04:02 PM
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San Antonio has the LEAST amount of people living downtown out of the major cities in Texas. I don't know where some of these numbers are coming from.
02-27-2010, 04:42 PM
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The least? It has the most, but, Austin is catching up. San Antonio has a lot of historic structure conversions. It does have newly built and planned structures, but, nowhere near the old stuff.
largest downtown populations.
http://www.brookings.edu/es/urban/top21fin.pdf (broken link)
a few examples historic conversions.
Steel House Lofts :: 1401 South Flores Street :: 210.212.6900 (http://www.steelhouselofts.com/floorplans/index.html - broken link)
Here is a listing but a lot are not listed, like the privately owned properties. One comes to mind that is sold out, where my friend lives, the 12 story South Texas building, beautiful conversion.
Buy | Downtown Alliance San Antonio
Rent | Downtown Alliance San Antonio
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02-27-2010, 08:15 PM
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The least? It has the most, but, Austin is catching up. San Antonio has a lot of historic structure conversions. It does have newly built and planned structures, but, nowhere near the old stuff.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, because I don't have the exact numbers with me. But the document you linked to is 12 years old, and since then Dallas has redefined "downtown" to include areas outside of the CBD. Including the CBD, Uptown, Cedars, and Victory, I believe Dallas' "downtown" population is around 30K. I mention this because the article you linked to stated that the Census Bureau does not define downtowns; they are defined by each city and are often not apples-to-apples comparisons.
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, because I don't have the exact numbers with me. But the document you linked to is 12 years old, and since then Dallas has redefined "downtown" to include areas outside of the CBD. Including the CBD, Uptown, Cedars, and Victory, I believe Dallas' "downtown" population is around 30K. I mention this because the article you linked to stated that the Census Bureau does not define downtowns; they are defined by each city and are often not apples-to-apples comparisons.
Cedar Springs the gay area? thats really not downtown.
02-27-2010, 08:57 PM
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The list has projections through 2010, with increases for all cities. San Antonio should be close to 30,000 just downtown, if you include Midtown, monte Vista, Broadway, it would be a lot more than 30k.
02-27-2010, 10:06 PM
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Cedar Springs the gay area? thats really not downtown.
The Cedars, not Cedar Springs.
02-27-2010, 10:46 PM
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Only 180 condo units in ALL of downtown San Antonio with 400+ under construction.
San Antonio condos: Behind the trend (http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/MYSA120107_01G_Condos_18d710a_html.html - broken link)
Downtown only has a population of 3439 people- by far the least of all the major Texas cities.
Downtown San Antonio, Texas
02-27-2010, 11:39 PM
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Only 180 condo units in ALL of downtown San Antonio with 400+ under construction.
San Antonio condos: Behind the trend (http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/MYSA120107_01G_Condos_18d710a_html.html - broken link)
Downtown only has a population of 3439 people- by far the least of all the major Texas cities.
Downtown San Antonio, Texas
JohninAustin one of your links is an apartment guide and the other link is from 2007.....Your links seem to be far behind due to the fact that this is 2010.
I don't really care how many people live in downtown or what not, but I can assure you that Houston, Austin, and San Antonio have the most vibrant downtowns. San Antonio, being the 2nd largest city in TX, would of course have plenty of things that attract people of all ages. From many restuarants ( one of the fattest cities in the nation
) to plenty of night clubs, and of course plenty of activities to keep your kids busy like The Alamo, Ripleys etc. It has plenty to offer especially with the riverwalk's expansion. SA's downtown is more historical rather than modern, but it is very vibrant and the most visited city in all of Texas.
Austin's downtown is unique, but there downtown seems to attract more college kids and young professionals *cough cough* 6th street. Because of this, Austin is by far the best college town. Many kids after graduating High School move to Austin just because it is the place to go to if your young. Austin's downtown has a great nightlife. If you have kids, Austin's downtown my disappoint you unless you like a mediocre museum. I love Austin's architecture it feels like Gotham City from Batman
. There are also many places to live.. that is if you have the money.
I like Houston's downtown because of the very tall buildings. Yes, I love architecture and they have a cool looking downtown just like Austin. Houston has awesome stuff to do with your kids and it is great for older people as well. From dining, to shopping, and many more activities ( too lazy to type everything ) it is very vibrant. And it should be for the biggest city in Texas.
I think that Dallas and Forth Worth have OKAY downtowns, but that's just my opinion. If you have visited SA, Austin, and Houston, then I am sure many of you will agree that there downtowns are more vibrant.
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That is condo constrution not overall population for the entire downtown area, San Antonio still has the largest downtown population. More people rent than buy, it's not determined just by condo construction. Again San Antonio's downtown inventory is moreso conversions than new structures being built. It is easier to convert in San Antonio than knock something over, especially with the strict building regulations in San Antonio.
That apartment link is not a overall representation for downtown, it's a apartment guide, nothing more, with not a accurate fugure. Some sources may label CBD as the entire downtown area. For instance Hemisfair Park is apart of the convention district not the Central business district, they are apartments all over downtown.
Downtown San Antonio has several districts and it's population was determine by a study of the one of the most prestigious urban institutes and the census bureau, not a apartment guide, with a total estimate of certain units, properties and stating that as the population for the CBD. That is just listing of participating properties for rent. There are many private owner properties for sale as well, that are not listed. Just like the South Texas building that has 100's of residents but I can't no longer find a link, a link that listed the properties.
This link says Austin's has 5,000 residents, but a in depth study that I listed determined it was much more. Why would the Brookings and Census, Fannie mae come up with a figure of nearly 25,000 for San Antonio? Just because?
http://www.downtownaustin.com/downlo...y_20080402.pdf
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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) to plenty of night clubs, and of course plenty of activities to keep your kids busy like The Alamo, Ripleys etc. It has plenty to offer especially with the riverwalk's expansion. SA's downtown is more historical rather than modern, but it is very vibrant and the most visited city in all of Texas.
. There are also many places to live.. that is if you have the money. 
