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I think it is simply if a Toronto airport can offer CONCIDERABLY Cheaper landings that are cheaper enough then to connect into a ACTUAL destination? Say Boston, NYC, Detroit or Chicago or merely any US destination? Then it could pull a coup. If one could TRULY save money. Along with airlines. (seems like it's a Air Canada first especially LOL) and its cheaper to then to even rent a car and drive the rest of their way to NYC? (but you really don't want a car there) Or merely a connecting flight of course. Who knows?
It is not merely NYC, Baltimore/DC Atlanta and Chicago as major hubs to steal from. Atlanta built a new airport to steal some from Chicago. It also was cheaper to use. But Chicago is finally expanding O'hare and Dallas/Ft Worth is expanding to gain Purhaps too?
But this forever Toronto needs to USURP, out-maneuver, under-mine, to outright try to steal from other cities to ADVANCE Globally in its fight for recognition and esteem?
Gets old. I'm not saying the city, Province or Nation does. But many on C-D add motives to Toronto gaining as if "whatever it takes". To be that QUINTESSENTIAL Global Cosmopolitan Booming Premiere North American city. ��
Toronto is Canada's premier show case city. By all means, it should be advancing its global prestige on all levels. If you think it gets "old" or "tiresome", OH WELL.
The world is not designed for your personal sensibilities.
Democracy does not mean "open borders", "globalism", and "multiculturalism".
It does mean a government that actually represents the needs and wishes of the people. Not ONE culture out of a mixed bunch. Not MULTINATIONALS at the expense of everything and everyone else. So one can easily say that certain of these things you allude to are NOT a feature of democracy. Hard to imagine a democracy when, just coincidentally, the interests of multinationals are prioritized over national industry.
I think it is simply if a Toronto airport can offer CONCIDERABLY Cheaper landings that are cheaper enough then to connect into a ACTUAL destination? Say Boston, NYC, Detroit or Chicago or merely any US destination? Then it could pull a coup. If one could TRULY save money. Along with airlines. (seems like it's a Air Canada first especially LOL) and its cheaper to then to even rent a car and drive the rest of their way to NYC? (but you really don't want a car there) Or merely a connecting flight of course. Who knows?
It is not merely NYC, Baltimore/DC Atlanta and Chicago as major hubs to steal from. Atlanta built a new airport to steal some from Chicago. It also was cheaper to use. But Chicago is finally expanding O'hare and Dallas/Ft Worth is expanding to gain Purhaps too?
But this forever Toronto needs to USURP, out-maneuver, under-mine, to outright try to steal from other cities to ADVANCE Globally in its fight for recognition and esteem?
Gets old. I'm not saying the city, Province or Nation does. But many on C-D add motives to Toronto gaining as if "whatever it takes". To be that QUINTESSENTIAL Global Cosmopolitan Booming Premiere North American city. 👌
Every other city is ambitious and clamoring for top position. Houston is trying to usurp Chicago and one day will.
Toronto is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the turn of events, if only the leaders that be can realize what opportunities await. Montreal should capitalize as well.
Cities either grow or decline. Look at Detroit for worst case. Toronto must always keep its eye on the prize.
Bloomberg.com ran an article about Air Canada looking to cream off some business from US airlines. The article said Canadian airlines are not nearly big enough to take on the giants in the US. As if to say if any of the giants sensed a threat, the game for Canada would be over. Not endorsing this line of thought, just read the story with interest knowing about this topic.
Toronto is Canada's premier show case city. By all means, it should be advancing its global prestige on all levels. If you think it gets "old" or "tiresome", OH WELL.
The world is not designed for your personal sensibilities.
Thanks for agreeing with my assesment. Toronto apparently? Not merely C-D posters? As a city even. Is aiming and begging for World Global Stature it feels it still does not get? Or aims and desires, more that other cities took far more decades to achieve.
Once it was able to take from what was Montreal's to lose in Quebec's separatist threat? No city is off limits.
Toronto may feel it is ready for North America's 2nd city status already? But especially, it wants to be seen in a more superior to American cities and Europe especially to take notice it is closer to them in direction in mass transit and Cosmopolitan then US cities NOT called NYC.
As for Houston in a battle with Chicago? It realized aspects it can achieve and overtake? But also aspects of more growth over decades Chicago covers and history. It can't USURP and steal. It will though become a Great American city with its own and similar issues of others. Houston knows it is not alone in other cities also striving to improve, evolve and achieve more stature also.
I'm Canada? Toronto already sees itself as achieving, evoled above the others, and Montreal is No competition.
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Every other city is ambitious and clamoring for top position. Houston is trying to usurp Chicago and one day will.
Toronto is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the turn of events, if only the leaders that be can realize what opportunities await. Montreal should capitalize as well.
Cities either grow or decline. Look at Detroit for worst case. Toronto must always keep its eye on the prize.
Thanks for furthering my assessment and YOUR intent with the thread.
As for Houston and Toronto overtaking Chicago? Again somethings can't be copied that time and history evolved. Just as European cities are one of a kind. Some become labeled as more generic. Generally newer fast growing cities.
Population after a certain point. Are meaningless to stature. Look at Mexico city on the world stage? But OH what architecture it has.
EXP's move from the Toronto suburbs is expected to create 150 new jobs in Chicago.The new employees will join 230 people who already work at EXP's office in the Loop, according to the mayor's office. That space will undergo a $5 million renovation, scheduled to start in April.
"The strong talent pool that exists here will undoubtedly help our firm continue to grow and achieve success," Mark Dvorak, the company's chief operations officer, said in a written statement. "In addition, having O'Hare International Airport located at our operational hub allows for easy access to the more than 100 offices we currently have throughout North America."
Every other city is ambitious and clamoring for top position. Houston is trying to usurp Chicago and one day will.
Toronto is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the turn of events, if only the leaders that be can realize what opportunities await. Montreal should capitalize as well.
Cities either grow or decline. Look at Detroit for worst case. Toronto must always keep its eye on the prize.
Growth for its own sake is hazardous. Actually, that pretty much describes cancer.
I was thinking that with this, perhaps Toronto International Airport could capitalize on this and take away a lot of Newark/JFK/Logan/Ohare/Atlanta/Miami's international flights.
Probably the total number of passengers directly affected by President Trump's initial ban are relatively small. However, this initial prohibition may swell to the point that large numbers of Europeans may simply not want to transit via the USA on personal or moral grounds.
I made a similar speculation when I looked at Dreamliner orders. While Air Canada has not made significantly more orders than the USA airlines, they seem more likely to use them to fly to Europe instead of Asia. Dreamliner, unlike all other jets, do not use cabin air supply is bled from the compressor sections of the engines. Many people feel it is much healthier and you have fewer headaches when you fly a Dreamliner for long trips. Hence a boost in transfers made through Canadian airports.
Dreamliner orders 8/9/10 models
Air Canada 8/29/0=37
American Airlines 20/22/0=42
United Airlines 12/23/14=49
But the biggest boost to Toronto traffic may come from people simply choosing to be tourists in Canada instead of the USA because of President Trump's hostility.
But the biggest boost to Toronto traffic may come from people simply choosing to be tourists in Canada instead of the USA because of President Trump's hostility.
I think there will be several cases:
1. People that go from Europe to Central/South America/Caribbean via the major East Coast hubs (JFK/Logan/Hartsfield/Ohare) now choosing to transit through Toronto or Montreal to avoid hassles.
2. People from the banned countries that may have visited the US as tourists now choosing Canada instead of the US.
3. People from Europe "punishing" the US for its policies by vacationing in cities like Toronto or Montreal instead of NYC. Those same people, if looking for a warm location, instead of choosing Florida they may choose various Caribbean islands or Havana if they want a city atmosphere instead of Miami.
People from Europe "punishing" the US for its policies by vacationing in cities like Toronto or Montreal instead of NYC. Those same people, if looking for a warm location, instead of choosing Florida they may choose various Caribbean islands or Havana if they want a city atmosphere instead of Miami.
People do things for a variety of reasons. Some may not want to come to the USA because of uneasy feelings about politics, but certainly the fact that the Canadian dollar is worth 77 US cents is a huge consideration. The Mexican peso has lost well over 1/3 of it's value relative to the US dollar since Trump announced his candidacy. It is now considerably cheaper to vacation in Montreal or a Mexican city.
The Japanese tourist loves the romance of the Calgary rodeos and every young Japanese girl has read the story of Anne Shirley, a young orphan from the fictional community of Bolingbroke, Nova Scotia. It is expected that the Chinese will soon develop a tourism trade involving hundreds of millions of citizens. Chinese Canadians now number over half a million in greater Toronto, so it is possible that the region will become a magnet for Chinese tourists looking for a taste of French culture in Montreal without the massive expense of going to Paris.
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