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I'm not going to post links- you can search them yourself. Not to sound like a witch. I'm just not that invested in this. I've pointed you in the proper direction.
I work in a med school and part of my job is preparing licensure documentation for our graduates. They're not easy to forge, every single document requires I place the school seal on them. Said seal is under lock and key in secured area. I would imagine other schools adhere to similar and appropriate safety measures. Credentialing specialists on the other end are equally fastidious. We've have paperwork returned due to small issues such as the seal being an inch beyond their specified placement.
States licensing boards require school certified transcripts, resident certificates. Just tons and tons of paper proof of education and training. I would imagine forging some or all docs would be incredibly difficult.
Also regarding board certification- to be board certified in EM he didn't need to do a residency if he was already board certified in a primary care specialty- ie Family Medicine.
AOA still reveals nothing about MacNeill.
I know how to search these documents. I'll give you two points though, the chief investigators said there are so many inconsistencies it had to be someone else's file. How about reading the facts of the case? Good pick up on that given what it took lead Detectives to find. Seriously, I congratulate you as it took longer for investigate all the lies and find exactly some of the things you mention above.
Please read far enough on the link where MacNeill had the St. Martin's seal.
Do you know or have worked with MacNeill? If so, why doesn't he show a license in NY and/ or NJ?
How were his law school documents forged?
You are also correct. A FP can take the ER board certification exam as an FP. Perhaps that training is recognized in all 50 states. A person who trains in FP that passes a test hasn't completed the curriculum ER docs have.
Given when he was licensed he couldn't have been grandfathered in. Why would he not introduce himself as BC ER when interacting with staff and patients? Instead he introduced himself as a physician and lawyer.
BTW- I'm licensed in more than one state. While I have never processed and organized the paperwork, I've submitted it for myself and others.
Please read about the Seals MacNeill had in his possession.
Thanks for your input, you further prove how much MacNeill crafted his life of crime. I appreciate your post.
charmed hour...snipped....just tons and tons of paper proof of education and training. I would imagine forging some or all docs would be incredibly difficult.
is there a good link to read about the current days trial events ?
I'll post one.
There is some great info here. On the earlier page I posted info from this a.m. where they were doing live tweets. I saw a quick blurp on tv. I couldn't get things posted as real life had pressing issues.
Once again, remember one of the prescriptions MacNiell requested for Michele was liquid Lortab ( hydrocodone). Alexis gave her Percocet for pain and the deceased son's girlfriend was asked to dump "pills" in the toilet.
Ada McNeill -CJC testimony...She didn't want to talk about her dad.
I can't find the snipet of Ada MacNeill testifying. The only testimony allowed in came from the Childre's Justice Center. It may be that because she's a minor, or the separate nature of the CJC that video can't be posted, I don't know.
I do know a brief glance of her face and what she finally whispered was an image I couldn't forget. HLN or others may have it.
And Alexis, who was on the stand today, had twins 10 days ago. I'm glad to see her move on with her life, but imagine that celebrating future birthdays could be very traumatic for a few years.
This is similar to the post above but does document Alexis as giving birth 10 days ago.
Her testifying was the tape since the defense didn't ask to cross exam her she didn't have to sit in the witness stand.
HLN is a joke with their coverage but otherwise you have to watch online.
Beth Karas pointed out a live coverage internet website that I used one day but I rather tape and fast forward but with HLN it is every 2 min that you have to fast forward and it is becoming so annoying that I'm almost at the point of not watching...
I did however watch nancy grace which is annoying too but she showed some high lights which actually where I saw more of the case.
HLN seems to try to become a news channel with a biased coverage on literally every subject so I can't watch them too long.
I know how to search these documents. I'll give you two points though, the chief investigators said there are so many inconsistencies it had to be someone else's file. How about reading the facts of the case? Good pick up on that given what it took lead Detectives to find. Seriously, I congratulate you as it took longer for investigate all the lies and find exactly some of the things you mention above.
I actually spent a few hours last night reading up on the case.
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Please read far enough on the link where MacNeill had the St. Martin's seal.
Frankly, I'm truly blown away by that. At our institution, the seal really is kept closely guarded. Our seal is also an old fashioned plated punch plate that is raised on paper. It weighs a good 10 pounds so it can't just walk away. I know not all school use raised seals. IMO, something like that makes it easier to duplicate a seal.
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Do you know or have worked with MacNeill? If so, why doesn't he show a license in NY and/ or NJ?
Of course, I don't know him nor have worked I with him. Why would I? I'm employed in a school he did not attend (medical school) nor did he come thru our residency program. Besides, I was in grammar school at the time he was enrolled in his pursuit of higher ed.
Regarding licensure: as you're aware some states don't license physicians until they've completed their residency. Not sure what NYS policy was back in the late 80s. Today, they are granted limited licensure before completion and successful USMLE board scores.
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How were his law school documents forged?
Clearly, he's pretty prolific in his ability to pass documentation as authentic. Again, it blows me away. I can't fathom the thread weaving it takes to create and falsify educational history.
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You are also correct. A FP can take the ER board certification exam as an FP. Perhaps that training is recognized in all 50 states. A person who trains in FP that passes a test hasn't completed the curriculum ER docs have.
I'm not disputing his lack of training. However, the board certification process allows one to sit for the test that does not have residency training specific to EM. Until they change their guidelines, that's how it it.
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Given when he was licensed he couldn't have been grandfathered in. Why would he not introduce himself as BC ER when interacting with staff and patients? Instead he introduced himself as a physician and lawyer.
Personally, I've never met a doctor that introduces themselves by specialty. But again, I don't work in a clinical area- purely academic. Most have introduced themselves to me by first name/last name. Rarely do they introduce themselves as "Dr." and never has one said, "I'm Dr. X, Neurosurgeon". But again, I'm in the academic side of medicine so most introductions go, "I'm First Name-Last Name, Associate Dean of such and such" or "Director of such and such".
When I've seen doctors as a patient- I know what kind of dr. they are. If I'm in the ER, I'm pretty sure the doc treating me works in EM unless they've brought a specialist down to see me. IN the office setting I'm aware whether I'm seeing a Internist, Cardiologist, etc.
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BTW- I'm licensed in more than one state. While I have never processed and organized the paperwork, I've submitted it for myself and others.
So you're well versed in how much a pain in the butt it is!
And to be nitpicky and technical- he was a physician and lawyer. Or rather, presented himself as such and was licensed as so.
I have to say the detail you pour into your posts makes me feel as if you personally know this man or someone who was "wronged" by him.
That being said, I think the man is dead guilty and a sociopath.
Please don't apologize for your posts. The above had great info I've never seen before. I appreciate you posting it. There is so much information about Gypsy and her family's view of her.
Alexis has completed training and lives in another state. For her safety and her own family, I don't want to write more.
This guy forged so many things....he may have had help, I don't know. I never said he wasn't intelligent; it's what he chose to do with his I.Q. that is such a waste. Even if he wanted to practice law defending criminals, he could have contributed to society by freeing up another lawyer and probably having a vigorous defense for clients.
It was difficult to read about the daughter he sent back to the Ukraine. But, I believe necessary to explore. Trading an adopted daughter for Gypsy to have her SSN is not the act of a loving father, IMHO.
MSR
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Ada McNeill -CJC testimony...She didn't want to talk about her dad.
